“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”

For those wanting a lawn boy, I think you have to order them from amazon dot com as opposed to amazon dot co dot uk, since they're not a thing over here.

P&P and customs charges will be a killer, though.

(And yes, 'boy' is an old term in English for a servant of any age, like garçon in French, but is very colonialist in British English, as in 'houseboy'. Much more used in US English - cowboy (obviously), bellboy, pool boy, lawn boy - not sure what that says about the USians).

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The minute we acknowledge that we are not as strong as men, the same misogynists use that against us to put us back in the box.

Same value but different is too much nuance for a misogynist.

You win the internet for that today, FigTree!😂
And as this threads is full of clever, witty women being very funny, that's some achievement

Do they really think “terfs” are the minority? Ones with the confidence to speak out previously maybe, but the main thing I have learned this last year is actually just how mainstream it is to not believe in this trans stuff, and to be getting pretty tired of it. I was at an airport last week and a group were laughing about all the things they would like to identify as.

This is spot on. I think I said something in another thread about a girl on Twix talking about how all the women she saw on TV growing up were super strong - Buffy, Xena - and previous to that we had Charlie’s Angels and Wonder Woman. And they could overpower men. So ordinary women should of course be at least equal, physically, to men. And so then we get random girls on the street saying sure, if they trained enough they could totally fight [insert some male MMA champ here].

Somewhere we lost the understanding that what the Suffragettes were fighting for was equal intellectual standing with men. Not trying to say that there are no physical differences between men and women at all.

"Another advantage the TERFs have over us is that they aren't limited to telling the truth." has to be the most uber-DARVO dishonest BS I have ever seen on the internet!

Ultimately it comes down to a total dismissal of female agency and integrity - especially when it involves older women or those that won't be "nice".

So many socialist men of a 'certain age' too....have been dismissing women's issues as irrelevant - not really the stuff of politics - in the same way they always have.

I'm going to put it out there - people who believe that sex is real and matters have more common sense and basc life skills, and less mental illness or confusion, than those who think men can be women. As a result one GC is worth about 10 TRAs. Add in the fact that practically no-one genuinely believes TWAW and you have a recipe for TRA disaster.

I went to the Garden Party once. There was a corgi lying flat and still on a lawn for a very long time. I was just wondering if I should tell someone and then it got up and ran away. Probably looking for a lawn boy.

No, they cannot. They really do seem to think that what we want is for women to return to traditional roles and presentations, and that we are rejecting of gender non conformity. This is because they cannot differentiate between Gender and Sex...plus that they don't really understand what 'gender' implies or means in the first place. The term 'Gender' has simply been embraced - without any analysis at all.

What they seem to think is that by claiming an opposite sex identity you are challenging gender stereotypes (rather than re-inforcing them, as it actually the case). It's all so juvenile......as if they've never really read the foundational texts, or understood the principles of both the women's movement or the gay liberation movement. It is as if neither had ever happened.

My best explanation for the confusion is that they think that there are absolutely no differences between the sexes...apart from body parts....that all else is socially constructed. Sex therefore has no consequence and doesn't mean anything. 'Gender identity' is therefore just personal prefernce or an identification with certain types of thing which are the opposite to that expected of one's sex.

I do think there are certain elements within certain types of feminsim which have encouraged this belief. That by suggesting that males are bigger and stronger, or more prone to sexual paraphilias etc is to also suggest that women are weak and pathetic and cannot stand up for themselves, and so on ( which they see as a harmful gender stereotype).

I'm seeing the Queen next week. I'll put in a word. She might get us into a garden party.

As evidenced by the rants we had here all weekend.

Hilarious isn't it
Well I do qualify as middle-aged. But I'm poor and definitely don't attend garden parties with powerful rich people.

And yes, JKR is middle-aged and wealthy and contributes financially.

But, they also have PLENTY of wealthy celebrities on their side. If they're not putting their hands in their pockets to help the trans cause, then maybe they need to ask them why not.

Are they perhaps not really allies? Perhaps only paying lip service so they can look all kind and progressive and OTRSOH?

Maybe sticking on a 'protect the dolls' t-shirt and slagging off JKR is support enough

They have not the slightest passing acquaintance with reality, and that is why we're winning.

Keep up the good work, lads!.

It's middle aged CIS women duh!
Middle aged transwomen are sexy and better at womaning (Obviously) but sadly don't have the rich golfing husbands or live in affluent neighbourhoods with influential judges on speed dial

Lawn boy?

Can you post the comments for those of us not on X

If these TERF - cells are so widespread how come there has never been mentioned on MN. Surely we're prime recruitment territory

It would be hilarious If it wasn't for the fact these people can't see they are in echo chambers & are actually influencing policy.

It’s like gorillas Proximal. There are Very Few gorillas left but they all live close to each other in shrinking pockets of forest so gorillas, when socialising, get to see a lot of other gorillas and totally fail to realise that in general society there really aren’t many gorillas at all.

Note: I do not know who it was who originally surveyed gorillas for their views on this but they were Very Brave.

I don't think anyone who isn't a SAHP is distancing themselves from the concepts of being a SAHP - simply stating how we aren't in that category ourselves.

Good point. What about the middle aged transitioners? I thought they were women? #TWAW Aren't they always then? 🤔

Casual homophobia, casual sexism, casual agism.

This person is not describing people they in reality know anything about, this person is just displaying their own prejudices about middle aged women.

Who they in reality know no more about than they in reality know what it is to be the opposite sex.

The entire movement is nothing more than the projection of ones own assumptions and prejudices as "fact".

Love the "dark money" reference too. The only dark money I have is tarnished 2p coins 😢

We're probably using all our shadowy right wing cash to outsource all that.

I mean, other terfs are. I've never seen a fucking penny. Annoying.

Apologies if this has already been shared but this one is particularly hilarious, really enjoyed the comments. Love terf humour.
https://x.com/IndyLassie/status/1919651465032880342

For those not on X

😂😂 my favourite:

'Everyone else has lots of day to day juggling.Work,study,cooking,cleaning,meeting friends.Just life stuff. These people have the time,money and the obsessive hatred which is their primary focus'

Oh my, these poor kids how do they find the time when they have to cook & clean for themselves.

Meanwhile us women just have our careers, DC, aging parents & a household to run. No wonder we have so much time to be TERFY.