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NHS trust uses derogatory ‘terf’ slur in official guidance

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Shadowsunray · 03/05/2025 19:52

Absolutely insane that the NHS uses the term TERF in official guidance signed off by two executives. Imagine if someone used the trans offensive word trxxy in NHS documents, it would never happen. I don't understand how this anti women attitude has been allowed.

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JellySaurus · 04/05/2025 07:06

The trust’s guidance also makes claims “some cisgender people have unlawful discriminatory views of trans people using single-sex spaces such as using gendered toilets”.

The United Kingdom is not Orwell's Airstrip One. No individual's views are unlawful. It is only actions that may be unlawful. Beliefs are not legally mandated. Anybody may think or believe what they like, regardless of whether it is a belief worthy of respect in a democratic society.

Shadowsunray · 03/05/2025 20:27

countrysidedeficit · 03/05/2025 20:18

The trust’s guidance also makes claims “some cisgender people have unlawful discriminatory views of trans people using single-sex spaces such as using gendered toilets”.

Like other trusts in London, its single-sex accommodation policy for patients allows trans women to share wards and lavatories with women.

NELFT specialises in mental health care so presumably this means it's potentially been forcing vulnerable women under section (i.e. who are locked up and not able to leave) to share facilities with biological men?

Even more appalling when you consider how many women admitted to mental health wards have experienced male violence and may be on the ward because of the resulting trauma. Or that women with a history of mental illness are too often dismissed if they try to report assaults, least of all if they occurred whilst an inpatient.

What happened to basic safeguarding?

I'm not naive enough to think that any heads will actually roll when we finally unwind this carnage, but they bloody should.

It's utterly disgusting. SO many heads should role. It makes me furious and there just isn't any justification for it because men aren't women. If they were fighting for a third space fair enough but it's just insanity and it harms women. I'm hoping a few years from now people will look back and wonder what on earth they were thinking and feel shame for their foul behaviour, silencing women's legitimate concerns because activists told them to take leave on their sense.

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countrysidedeficit · 03/05/2025 20:18

The trust’s guidance also makes claims “some cisgender people have unlawful discriminatory views of trans people using single-sex spaces such as using gendered toilets”.

Like other trusts in London, its single-sex accommodation policy for patients allows trans women to share wards and lavatories with women.

NELFT specialises in mental health care so presumably this means it's potentially been forcing vulnerable women under section (i.e. who are locked up and not able to leave) to share facilities with biological men?

Even more appalling when you consider how many women admitted to mental health wards have experienced male violence and may be on the ward because of the resulting trauma. Or that women with a history of mental illness are too often dismissed if they try to report assaults, least of all if they occurred whilst an inpatient.

What happened to basic safeguarding?

I'm not naive enough to think that any heads will actually roll when we finally unwind this carnage, but they bloody should.

DuesToTheDirt · 03/05/2025 20:15

Within this document it refers to “trans-exclusionary radical feminists”, also known by the acronym “terf”, stating that this group “may feel that trans inclusion is an infringement on their beliefs or values”.

It's quite astonishing, isn't it. No mention of safety or dignity for women because who cares about women anyway just "infringement on their beliefs".

TangenitalContrivance · 03/05/2025 20:05

https://archive.ph/uLsfi

free link

Balloonhearts · 03/05/2025 20:05

It's behind a pay wall so can't read it.

TidyDancer · 03/05/2025 19:58

I’m not sure if I even find this shocking anymore. It’s horrific but I’m so used to hearing that some in the NHS are anti-women at this point.

I know the comms manager of one south east trust and she is a card carrying TRA who posts repeatedly on social media about how we should all protest the SC clarification and that men with special lady feelings of course should have every right to enter our spaces. It’s maddening.

Shadowsunray · 03/05/2025 19:55

Can't get the archive link to post and work.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/03/nhs-trust-uses-derogatory-terf-slur-in-official-guidance/

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