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DastardlyPigeon · 03/05/2025 13:57

I used to follow Ian Dunt post Brexit because, I was seeking out like-minded Remainers.

Alas he's sweary and sneery and quite blokish - think James O'Brien without the platform - so he's just supporting other men with his support for transwomen. He lost over 200k followers when he flounced from X to BlueSky.

WithSilverBells · 03/05/2025 13:53

I'm not sure that the argument "nice Good Friday Agreement you 'ave there. Shame if anyfing woz to 'appen to it" is going to be a game changer

mumda · 03/05/2025 12:36

Bluebootsgreenboots · 03/05/2025 12:34

Well if what we’re seeing is the denial phase we’d all better squish in to the cupboard under my stairs for the anger phase !

I think different people are on different stages.

Bluebootsgreenboots · 03/05/2025 12:34

mumda · 03/05/2025 12:08

The five stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.

Denial?

Well if what we’re seeing is the denial phase we’d all better squish in to the cupboard under my stairs for the anger phase !

jacksonlambsregulardisorder · 03/05/2025 12:16

What Dunt and men like him don't seem to grasp is that they are also men and could be part of a culture that challenges any attempted threat to transwomen using a same sex facility. You know by budging up, being accepting and yes, kind. Stop making women carry the can for their own inaction.

Peregrina · 03/05/2025 12:13

i.e a transwoman who is imposing into women’s spaces because he wants to be a woman can magically be male again to inherit a title or a property

the HoL made sure that hereditary peers couldn't be bumped from the title by an older sister saying she was a man, or a distant relative saying to a Trans Woman Lord that he had the rightful claim to the title as the nearest male. Having always said that it meant biological sex but made the law coherent. Which is what was said by the SC.

Whether primogeniture is a good or bad thing is a completely different argument.

mumda · 03/05/2025 12:08

The five stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.

Denial?

IGuessIllbetheFirst · 03/05/2025 11:58

There is a really interesting sentence in this article: “It authorises the kinds of exemptions you’d expect from Britain: succession, the descent of peerage, the administration of trusts and the disposition of trusts”. So all the rights that in general only men have to inherit wealth and position.

I don’t know who Ian Dunt but he dismisses this as “Mad feudal shit, basically” i.e a transwoman who is imposing into women’s spaces because he wants to be a woman can magically be male again to inherit a title or a property - and this is just OK, just some stuff from many years ago that we can’t possibly change, nothing to worry our silly little heads about. Does he think women are that stupid that we would not see the sheer hypocrisy of this?

AlecTrevelyan006 · 03/05/2025 11:48

stupid thing is that if you are a bloke - as I am - you know full well that there is long-established unwritten rules when using toilets. It's this:

  1. don't look at anyone else - even if you know them
  2. don't engage with them in any way shape or fashion - even if you know them
  3. do your business quickly, quietly and get out!

If you're in a men's toilet and a woman (or someone who looks like a woman) enters then 99% of the time you won't notice - because of rule 1 above.

On the off chance that you do notice the most likely outcome is that they will simply be ignored. There is a small chance that the woman might get a shout out along the lines of 'alright love, the women's is next door!'

The chances of men, mocking, coming on to or even attacking said woman are remote in the extreme.

ThisHangrySheep · 03/05/2025 11:36

“When she is outside in public, she would similarly be forced to walk into a men's toilet and face all the questions and dangers of that decision. Will the men in the loo shout at her? Will they mock her, laugh at her, come on to her? Will she be safe? Will she be respected?”

He doesn’t appear to grasp that this is what women and girls experience all the time.

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