"Thing is, for all @TruthInTransition word salad, all he was doing was making a case for there to be social and legal recognistion of a group of people who identify with the social constructions around womanhood as separate from the needs and experiences of being female."
@FlirtsWithRhinos That really wasn't my impression at all, he was suggesting that the term "women" was a shared identity between actual women and like himself. The issue is that "women" isn't a social construction at all, it is a biological reality.
I might have see his point if he was saying that he felt that he shouldn't have to conform to gender norms of being a man if he doesn't want to, if he wants to wear dresses and high heels, grow his hair long or wear make up that is his business but none of that is what "womanhood" is. Womanhood is only being a human adult female, that is what woman means, womenhood is not separate from from being female it is one and the same.
If he wants to campaign for men like him to be accepted as unconventional males and to promote acceptance of men like him amongst other men in male spaces then that is fine as it doesn't come into conflict with women's rights and nobody cares about what he does.
The issue is that this isn't what he wants, he wants men like him to be seen as actual women within the law, i.e. suggesting that men can be women and thereby erasing what a woman is under the law. He wants access to women's spaces and he wants women not to be able to say no.
He says:
"We are not asking for special treatment. We are demanding basic human decency. The right to live authentically. The right to be recognized accurately. The right not to be misgendered or dismissed because of ignorance or prejudice.
To consistently refer to us as men is not only deeply disrespectful—it is discriminatory. It is a conscious choice to invalidate our identities and erase our humanity. If you refuse to acknowledge us as trans women, you are not just disagreeing—you are actively engaging in dehumanization.
This isn’t a matter of opinion. This is about dignity, safety, and truth. If your advocacy for women’s rights excludes trans women, then it is not truly about equality—it is about gatekeeping. And if your language reduces us to something we are not, then it’s not just wrong. It’s dangerous.
A just society is one that listens, learns, and evolves. It doesn’t cling to outdated fears; it builds a future where everyone—cis, trans, or otherwise—can live with respect, safety, and equality."
"The right to live authentically" This literally means they want to be recognised as women and have access to women's spaces.
"To consistently refer to us as men is not only deeply disrespectful—it is discriminatory. It is a conscious choice to invalidate our identities and erase our humanity."
But it is ok for them to erase what a woman actually is and erode our rights, safety and dignity? They don't give a shit about women which isn't too surprising because they are men.
"This isn’t a matter of opinion. This is about dignity, safety, and truth. If your advocacy for women’s rights excludes trans women, then it is not truly about equality—it is about gatekeeping."
He's right it isn't a matter of opinion, he isn't a woman, none of them are and they only gatekeeper at play here is reality.
There is nothing dehumanising or dangerous about stating facts, he's male and therefore a man but he's playing the victim to try and get what he want's i.e. to shut women up and gain access to our spaces and erase our legal protections.