Amendment to Data Bill to revert all gender markers and out all trans people

Funny how TRA object to people claiming they are something they are not….

Is Isla Bryson a man or a transwoman?

What about Karen White?

Katie Dolotowski?

All of them committed their crimes against women in their identified as gender, and by that access into women's spaces. All of them are serial offenders against women. They are as trans as anyone else is.

There is no way to separate nice/safe men with trans identities from the dangerous/voyeuristic ones. And as women repeatedly say, even if the men in question are absolutely lovely, they still don't want them in a space where they are undressed, or where they wish to be in a women-only situation. What is it with this belief that women should only be permitted what privacy/freedoms men grudgingly allow them if and only when those women have sufficiently proved enough danger? Why in this world view are women's rights and spaces in the gift of men to bestow or deny?

How exactly do you propose to give women their legal protections in law (and homosexual people's and women with trans identities) and still let 'the right sort of man/transwoman' use their space of choice?

And I don't include 'make an app, totally fuck up national data at great expense and lie a lot to avoid those women's legal protections being able to work' because that's just beneath contempt.

Exactly, I don’t see how it can be.

How is this compliant with the SC ruling that sex must be recorded for the PSED?

So if sex isn’t going to be recorded then on this digital record you can bring up (on the screen of your phone or pc or printout) it should read: please note this should not be used as a confirmation of sex. Next to the sex or gender marker. Otherwise it’s a lie.

Something like this:

Sex: Male - note this record does not confirm you are female or male.

Age: 66

Address: Codderswhallop Cottage, Oceania

Qualification: PhD in Doublespeak (1984)

Right to work in UK: granted

That's the Men that commit these crimes and claim to be trans woman when they're NOT!

What is the difference?

I wrote to my LibDem MP as per Sex Matters' guidelines, but she still voted against it. Disappointed but not surprised.

@Annoyedone it's sadder that you believe this same rant 'As you call it' has just been regurgitated by different people. Did you ever think that it has been used by the same person on multiple sites so that it reached a wider Audience? Come on @Annoyedone I'm sure you can do better than that. I think you should look in the mirror and to your suprise you'll see the plopper staring back at you 😂

Yes https://x.com/soniasodha/status/1913720244499108007

If collecting accurate data is not justified or proportionate, why the hell bother doing it in the first place?

How is it justified or proportionate to spend vast amounts of money collecting, processing and using inaccurate data? What is the point? We can't afford to keep pensioners warm or meet kids' SEND needs or have a policeman come out when we're being robbed, but there's money to waste on this?

Exactly.

Such weaseling going on.

The whole bloody point of electronic id is that it's not all or nothing, the system can show you only the fields you are authorised to see.

So if there's no need for your particular check to include sex, you never even see a person's sex marker.

Yes, due to all the (whether by stupidity or deliberate deception) hand wringing about "outing" trans people, Labour, Greens et al just blocked and id system where literally by definition and baked into the system, no one ever (officially anyway🙄) got to know anyone's sex without a needful and audited reason to know it.

Slow handclap guys, is that foot not getting sore from all the shooting?

Also, am I right in thinking that Bryant was one of the little cabal within government/Labour who were leaked to the press as plotting to try to undermine or get round the SC ruling?

We need all these loopholes closed ultimately. But certainly no lady passports and driving licenses etc should be given to men without GRCs, at the very least.

It sounds like he either doesn’t understand the SC judgment or he’s pretending not to. It’s not about proportionality etc. Gender reassignment is a separate pc to sex. The question of how sex is defined in the EA has already been answered. It’s not whether it’s “reasonable.”

Sex is biological sex in all circumstances. How can equality monitoring be carried out if multiple definitions are being used?

Finally, the proposals have the potential to interfere with the right to respect for private and family life under the Human Rights Act by requiring public authorities to record sex as biological sex in all cases regardless of whether it is justified or proportionate in that given circumstance.

If the data collection isn’t justified and proportionate, doesn’t that interfere with everyone’s rights?

The government's position.
https://x.com/MForstater/status/1920217759595835851?t=rnZ1H9ZzWemh0OPt-NXlKw&s=19

Did anyone explain why it's legal to record gender/sex markers if the government's assumption is that it isn't relevant data?

Doesn't it contravene data protection legislation?

So much for supporting the ruling of the SC. Craven cowardice.

Apparently not one single Labour MP voted in favour of the ammendment.

https://x.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1920213741683290589?t=QtHygIKU5ThPsq_wOI0Txg&s=19

The amendment which would have brought sex data into line with the Data Protection Act has been voted down.

What happens next?

The bill goes back to the Lords. This stage is called "ping pong".

We hope the Lords will look carefully at the Bill and challenge the Commons to think again.

I assume this Bill will have to go through the Lords? If so there is hope that they will amend it.

https://www.rutland-times.co.uk/national/mps-reject-bid-to-force-authorities-to-record-sex-data-on-biological-basis-145838/ Rejected

But the good Doctor favours 'raspberry' scrubs, you know a shade of pink therefore clearly a woman because if men touch anything pink they die, actually and literally die. It's how you can tell a penis in pink leggings is a lady penis. Pink for girls blue for boys.

Note to self must ask DC if they are feeling enby yet as neither pink or blue stuff featured in either of their baby clothes/ toys etc.