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Amendment to Data Bill to revert all gender markers and out all trans people

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bluegoldflow · 02/05/2025 22:07

Hoping this passes, it shouldn't be possible to change your sex (a biological impossibility) on legal documents. This would prevent men using this loop hole to erase their past identities and stop male crimes being recorded as female crimes.

Amendment to Data Bill to revert all gender markers and out all trans people
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TheKeatingFive · 15/07/2025 17:20

Why on earth would it be a 'human right' to record lies in official documents?

What extraordinary levels of lunacy has this taken us to?

GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 15/07/2025 17:16

Transwomen are women who have a Gender Dysphoria Diagnosis.

How very transphobic of you. No GRC is required to be trans, no diagnosis is need to be trans, all it takes is saying you are trans.

Heyitstara101298 · 15/07/2025 17:11

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Heyitstara101298 · 15/07/2025 17:08

FlirtsWithRhinos · 08/05/2025 12:29

Exactly.

Such weaseling going on.

The whole bloody point of electronic id is that it's not all or nothing, the system can show you only the fields you are authorised to see.

So if there's no need for your particular check to include sex, you never even see a person's sex marker.

Yes, due to all the (whether by stupidity or deliberate deception) hand wringing about "outing" trans people, Labour, Greens et al just blocked and id system where literally by definition and baked into the system, no one ever (officially anyway🙄) got to know anyone's sex without a needful and audited reason to know it.

Slow handclap guys, is that foot not getting sore from all the shooting?

The reversing of gender markers will never happen. It breaks so many different laws surrounding privacy, dignity and human rights laws in the UK and across Europe. It will never happen and it's not morally correct either way.

JellySaurus · 11/05/2025 13:44

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 13:09

No that would make you a trans man or non binary because only men can be trans women. 🙃

RighteousAdvocate said that a transwoman ‘is a woman born…bla bla bla’ - I am a woman born (bla bla bla).

ApocalipstickNow · 11/05/2025 13:19

This is all going to break down in the future, because identities will become so niche there will be no definitions, no criteria and no meaning to any of it.

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 13:16

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 13:15

I see your logic, but no.

Trans women are just men who say they are women for any reason.

But I'm going with their logic about wanting to erase biological sex legally.

If they do that they erase their own existence and ability to distinguish themselves.

My point is their hypocrisy.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 13:15

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 13:12

I beg to differ.

If we abolish sex and sex is irrelevant any of us can claim to be a transwoman. If a transwomen are woman and women are cis women then how do you logically tell the difference and how can you argue who is a transwoman and who is not? Transwomen are anyone who says they are.

I see your logic, but no.

Trans women are just men who say they are women for any reason.

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 13:12

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 13:09

No that would make you a trans man or non binary because only men can be trans women. 🙃

I beg to differ.

If we abolish sex and sex is irrelevant any of us can claim to be a transwoman. If a transwomen are woman and women are cis women then how do you logically tell the difference and how can you argue who is a transwoman and who is not? Transwomen are anyone who says they are.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 13:09

JellySaurus · 11/05/2025 12:44

They identify the differences between Cis gender a woman born as the gender they identify as and Trans Woman a woman born with the gender they don't identify as

So because I don't identify with the gender imposed upon me since birth, I'm a transwoman. Got it.

🤪

No that would make you a trans man or non binary because only men can be trans women. 🙃

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 13:09

ifIwerenotanandroid · 11/05/2025 12:49

Now, why did you have to remind me of this?

Completely intentional.

They sound like this.

And accuse us of being far right.

The parallels are amusing.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 11/05/2025 12:49

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 10:08

I have to say it's a SCANDAL how education standards in English have slipped in this country

It👏is 👏a 👏disgrace

FACT

Now, why did you have to remind me of this?

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JellySaurus · 11/05/2025 12:44

They identify the differences between Cis gender a woman born as the gender they identify as and Trans Woman a woman born with the gender they don't identify as

So because I don't identify with the gender imposed upon me since birth, I'm a transwoman. Got it.

🤪

PonyPatter44 · 11/05/2025 12:28

I still want to know why I cant change my nationality as easily as I can change my sex marker. Then I can get an EU passport and stop arsing about on trips to France.

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 11:52

GeorgeO · 11/05/2025 11:30

Musing that ‘trans is cis’ is an anagram of narcissist.

I'm so stealing that.

GeorgeO · 11/05/2025 11:30

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/05/2025 10:16

No Tran woman wants to be a Cis Woman, No one wants your identify get over yourself you really aren't that special, GROW UP

India Willoughby thinks he's a "cis woman". Glinner screencapped the claim and posted it https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/india-willoughby

It's hilarious when TRAs tell such easily-disproven lies.

Musing that ‘trans is cis’ is an anagram of narcissist.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/05/2025 10:26

Waitwhat23 · 11/05/2025 10:24

Worse is the twats who will physically clap in people's faces to punctuate their wanky point

👏 educate 👏 yourself 👏 bigot! 👏

Should only be countered with -

👏 piss 👏 off 👏you 👏 wanker 👏

See also: Luna Spain, former barista and smasher of coffee shop doors.

"You're 👏 being 👏 transphobic 👏 Karen 👏" captured on video.

Waitwhat23 · 11/05/2025 10:24

Worse is the twats who will physically clap in people's faces to punctuate their wanky point

👏 educate 👏 yourself 👏 bigot! 👏

Should only be countered with -

👏 piss 👏 off 👏you 👏 wanker 👏

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 10:19

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/05/2025 10:16

No Tran woman wants to be a Cis Woman, No one wants your identify get over yourself you really aren't that special, GROW UP

India Willoughby thinks he's a "cis woman". Glinner screencapped the claim and posted it https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/india-willoughby

It's hilarious when TRAs tell such easily-disproven lies.

That's transevidence. Evidence that identifies as a figment of your imagination.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/05/2025 10:16

TotallyExhaustingRighteousFanatics · 10/05/2025 14:01

@Datun Another uneducated comment, you really need to research before posting Both Cis and Trans exist and they are widely used in scientific contexts. Why dont you actually do a little research. They identify the differences between Cis gender a woman born as the gender they identify as and Trans Woman a woman born with the gender they don't identify as, I'd explain in detail but I doubt you'd have the intellectual brain power to understand as people like you believe only in social constructs, and unaware of the objective reality due to how narrow minded you are

Woman is a universal term Period

Cis - Woman (Biological Born)
Trans - Woman (Non Biological Born)
Intersex Woman

It doesn't matter which you are these are all woman and you need to get over that fact

No Tran woman wants to be a Cis Woman, No one wants your identify get over yourself you really aren't that special, GROW UP

No Tran woman wants to be a Cis Woman, No one wants your identify get over yourself you really aren't that special, GROW UP

India Willoughby thinks he's a "cis woman". Glinner screencapped the claim and posted it https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/india-willoughby

It's hilarious when TRAs tell such easily-disproven lies.

India Willoughby, the 'cis woman'

India Willoughby is a 56-year-old trans-identified male who calls himself a ‘cis woman’, and believes that trans people in the UK today face the same persecution as Jews did during the Holocaust.

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/india-willoughby

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 10:15

Helleofabore · 11/05/2025 10:11

It👏is 👏a 👏disgrace PERIOD

GROW UP

(don’t forget the grow up instruction there Sharkie)

Damn it I clearly still need educating don't I?

I'm never going to make it to the standards of allyship, so I just might not bother tbh.

Helleofabore · 11/05/2025 10:11

It👏is 👏a 👏disgrace PERIOD

GROW UP

(don’t forget the grow up instruction there Sharkie)

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 11/05/2025 10:11

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 09:30

Cis Sharks and Loan Sharks.

Because we need to be aware that the use of the word shark puts them into the same group (because we are incapable of seeing the word shark repeated and can only see the word cis)

We clearly have a need to categorise them in the same group otherwise we wouldn't call them both sharks. Right?

The word shark only has one meaning obviously because transwomen are women and are the same thing because all other women are cis women.

OMG. I just realised homophones are bigoted!

I demand shark rights free from bigots and the abolition of all homophones from the English language to free it from discrimination. It's 2025 we shouldnt have homophones.

We've got to this level of none ironic, completely literal idiocy haven't we?
(With apologies to dyslexics who are actually not this bloody dumb).

I am shocked at your homophonia.

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 10:08

Helleofabore · 11/05/2025 10:00

Don’t forget the 👏 emojis as punctuation.

There is a particular mind set that use 👏 and PERIOD. And that mind set is not one that tends to be one that can convince using well thought out points. But it is one who also resorts to egotistically declaring that they have superior knowledge. Particularly over women while lecturing women on who is and is not a woman.

Oh and one who calls mature adults ‘girls’ in serious discussions.

It all adds up to some very strong misogynistic tendencies.

I have to say it's a SCANDAL how education standards in English have slipped in this country

It👏is 👏a 👏disgrace

FACT

Helleofabore · 11/05/2025 10:00

Don’t forget the 👏 emojis as punctuation.

There is a particular mind set that use 👏 and PERIOD. And that mind set is not one that tends to be one that can convince using well thought out points. But it is one who also resorts to egotistically declaring that they have superior knowledge. Particularly over women while lecturing women on who is and is not a woman.

Oh and one who calls mature adults ‘girls’ in serious discussions.

It all adds up to some very strong misogynistic tendencies.