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Banned from breastfeeding group for objecting to males breastfeeding

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snickerdoodle1990 · 01/05/2025 21:40

Hi everyone,

I gave birth a few months ago and had some breastfeeding difficulties, so joined a local breastfeeding support group in my city. It’s basically a place to go for support with feeding, plus meet other mums/have a cuppa and biscuit etc. They also have a FB group. It’s become a nice, friendly place to go once every couple of weeks.

Recently, a trans-woman (male) has joined the group asking for support because their wife has not long had a baby and the trans-woman is wishing to breastfeed too, apparently through use of hormones and domperidone (?) to stimulate supply (I did not realise this was possible at all)

I really really object to this person being present in a group of women who are seeking breastfeeding support, trying to come together in their breastfeeding experience and also revealing themselves intimately

I told the group leader my concerns and she basically told me to shove it - said that the group is a safe space for everyone and they support all who wish to breastfeed and that I shouldn’t come back because I am a bigot

I am horrified as are the other women, where do we all stand and what would you do?

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Apollo441 · 02/05/2025 11:39

Women are discouraged from taking paracetamol when pregnant. Anyone who thinks that you can feed the effluent from the secretions of drug induced male lactations to a baby is more than a few sandwiches short of a picnic. 100% child abuse.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/05/2025 11:39

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:29

It is in the hear and now for a minority of trans women but not for men in general

There's been enough experimentation on children with experimental drugs and brutal surgery in pursuit of the failed "born in the wrong body" nonsense.
Nobody should be experimenting on babies with male secretions instead of female breast milk.

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:37

SternJoyousBee · 02/05/2025 11:32

so you believe ( despite 12 hours ago not even knowing it was a possibility) that transwomen can produce breast milk that can nourish a child ?

how does a transwoman differ from other men?

I haven’t heard that other men ( not trans women) were as yet interested in doing it but there may be some out there that are

ThePenguinIsDrunk · 02/05/2025 11:36

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 10:18

Nothing stopping them from referring to themselves as mothers (not on birth certs) and I doubt there will ever be a law that will prevent them from doing so

You claimed that you were sharing a legal and social definition of mother. They can ID however they want but a TIM cannot legally be a mother.

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:33

Chariothorses · 02/05/2025 11:25

@MrsOvertonsWindow spot on as usual.
@Helloworlditsmeagain there is a grassroots group called children of ntransitioners.org if you are interested in contacted them

There is a clear troll on this thread, spouting rubbish and being as offensive to women as possible. Always a good idea not to feed trolls.

Not a troll at all,
Anyone with a different point of view in relation to these kind of topics on MN and who goes against the general ( narrow minded ) way of thinking is branded a troll in order to quieten them

The usual bullying by narrow minded individuals

SternJoyousBee · 02/05/2025 11:32

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:29

It is in the hear and now for a minority of trans women but not for men in general

so you believe ( despite 12 hours ago not even knowing it was a possibility) that transwomen can produce breast milk that can nourish a child ?

how does a transwoman differ from other men?

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:29

SternJoyousBee · 02/05/2025 11:21

But you agree that it is “ahead of us” so not in the here and now? So why pander to a man who is in the here and now, where it’s not possible to ‘breastfeed’ in a way that nourishes the baby? What possible benefit would that have for the baby and their mother who is actually capable of feeding the child?

It is in the hear and now for a minority of trans women but not for men in general

Chariothorses · 02/05/2025 11:27

sorry @Helloworlditsmeagain I spelt link wrong it's
childrenoftransitioners.org

Chariothorses · 02/05/2025 11:25

@MrsOvertonsWindow spot on as usual.
@Helloworlditsmeagain there is a grassroots group called children of ntransitioners.org if you are interested in contacted them

There is a clear troll on this thread, spouting rubbish and being as offensive to women as possible. Always a good idea not to feed trolls.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/05/2025 11:22

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:16

Nonsense, there is no way you could possibly know what is ahead of us as no one does

Even in what feels like dystopian times, the only people wanting to promote men breastfeeding babies are men with a fetish and the organisations that centre them
The rest of society is clear that babies are not to be used by these men for their own narcissistic purposes. Safeguarding children should be the priority - although judging by your awful response to a poster upthread, it seems safeguarding children may not be on your radar

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:22

Notenoughsweeties · 02/05/2025 11:18

There’s a lot of nonsense being spouted, that’s for sure, but not by me 😉

I think you think more highly of yourself than I do of you 😂
So we can agree to disagree on that

SternJoyousBee · 02/05/2025 11:21

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:16

Nonsense, there is no way you could possibly know what is ahead of us as no one does

But you agree that it is “ahead of us” so not in the here and now? So why pander to a man who is in the here and now, where it’s not possible to ‘breastfeed’ in a way that nourishes the baby? What possible benefit would that have for the baby and their mother who is actually capable of feeding the child?

UrsulasHerbBag · 02/05/2025 11:19

@Helloworlditsmeagain I hope you’re ok. The children of trans parents and the damage done to them are so easy to ignore and pretend they don’t exist…Unless they are being wheeled out as props. I hope you have support now and some way of coping with your abuse. I think there is a group online to support children of trans parents and help each other make sense the unique and deeply damaging abuse they encountered. Just wishing you love and a brighter future.

Notenoughsweeties · 02/05/2025 11:18

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:16

Nonsense, there is no way you could possibly know what is ahead of us as no one does

There’s a lot of nonsense being spouted, that’s for sure, but not by me 😉

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:16

Notenoughsweeties · 02/05/2025 11:13

From what you’ve said so far I’m very sure I have a better understanding than you do in this field.

So, no, men in general will not all be encouraged to breastfeed their children in the near future. In case that’s in any doubt.

Nonsense, there is no way you could possibly know what is ahead of us as no one does

Notenoughsweeties · 02/05/2025 11:13

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:02

You don’t know this as not enough research has been done in this area, new medications are being developed and improved upon all the time

No one knows the extent of the possibilities

From what you’ve said so far I’m very sure I have a better understanding than you do in this field.

So, no, men in general will not all be encouraged to breastfeed their children in the near future. In case that’s in any doubt.

SternJoyousBee · 02/05/2025 11:13

But they are not just attending. They are claiming to want to feed the child and are looking to this group for help in doing so.

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:11

SternJoyousBee · 02/05/2025 11:07

So no one knows but until we do know it’s perfectly fine for transwomen to attempt to breastfeed a baby and take up space within support groups when they cannot (and will not be able to) successfully produce enough secretion in volume never mind of quality to nourish the baby.

Babies (and women) are not emotional support animals for transwomen

They can attend any groups that are open to having to having trans women attend, that’s basically it

SternJoyousBee · 02/05/2025 11:11

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:02

You don’t know this as not enough research has been done in this area, new medications are being developed and improved upon all the time

No one knows the extent of the possibilities

So do you acknowledge that it’s not yet a possibility?

AelitaQueenofMars · 02/05/2025 11:10

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:06

So your trans mother tried to breast feed you and abused you?

I’ve seen other posters on here with a lack of empathy and understanding, but you’re quite chilling…

SternJoyousBee · 02/05/2025 11:09

The specific matter of men irrespective of how they identify taking drugs to attempt to breast feed a baby. If it’s such a good idea and centres the well-being of the child why are we not encouraging all men to do it?

SternJoyousBee · 02/05/2025 11:07

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:02

You don’t know this as not enough research has been done in this area, new medications are being developed and improved upon all the time

No one knows the extent of the possibilities

So no one knows but until we do know it’s perfectly fine for transwomen to attempt to breastfeed a baby and take up space within support groups when they cannot (and will not be able to) successfully produce enough secretion in volume never mind of quality to nourish the baby.

Babies (and women) are not emotional support animals for transwomen

Blueskies25 · 02/05/2025 11:06

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 11:00

I was the child

So your trans mother tried to breast feed you and abused you?

Datun · 02/05/2025 11:06

Oldermum84 · 02/05/2025 10:28

The OP has not specified what type of group it was. And has not said it was labelled as a single sex group.

And FWIW the group I went to held in cafes wasn't a peer support group. It was one led by a professional lactation consultant who went round supporting with latches etc..no one used a cover that I can think of.

It is a single sex group. It was advertised specifically for mothers. That makes it single sex.

Scienceblast · 02/05/2025 11:05

Depending on the medical situation of the trans woman, in this milk there might be: testosterone, testosterone blocking drugs, synthetic oestrogen (I have no idea whether the levels are similar to those of a post-partum woman or higher), in addition to the drugs used to induce lactation.

Differently from what said by one poster somewhere in the thread, substances in our blood will pass into the milk. If you look into the medicines you have at home, many will say ask your doctor or pharmacist if you are breastfeeding.

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