Banned from breastfeeding group for objecting to males breastfeeding

"Why do men need to breast feed babies? Whose interest is that in?"

These male people tell us why. We just need to listen:

This may need a content warning, so be warned this link show males talking about the amazing electric charge they get from infants feeding from their nipples amongst other things.

https://www.them.us/story/trans-women-breastfeed

This is an illuminating read and shows insight into the motivations for these male people who seek to do this.

What is very clear, is that this is NEVER about the child. This is never child centred. This is all about the male person's demands being met.

Cow Achievement apparently

https://www.tiktok.com/@nominal.naomi/video/7235719967327456558

Yet, we are being told by posters that this is all child centred and is just for the infant.

There are plenty of more examples out there.

Including the one from a male feeding from their nipple about the 'electric' nipple sensation with an infant latching and how mother's must spend their days in an erotic fantasy while breast feeding.

Dismissing the range of possibilities ahead overlooks the fact that the future is unpredictable and could take many forms, it’s a very ignorant way of thinking

Thank you . I didn’t even think this was a physical possibility until today. And I still not sure if it is possible for a man to solely feed a baby and a baby to put on weight.

Are there any records of a man doing this successfully in 2025? And not topping up with formula?

Surely there are limitations on what you can physically achieve when you change gender. A Transman will not be able to produce sperm. A Transwoman cannot have a period.

I'm trigger warning this comment, in regards to stilbirth.

To me, people who are okay with men pretending they can breastfeed fall into one of two camps. Those who've never heard of autogynephilia, and those who would rather nobody else had heard of it.

It's a male sexual fetish where the idea of being a woman is sexually arousing.

There are certain different types: wearing women's clothes, entering women's spaces, etc. Trying to imitate the biological functions of a woman is another. Hence men pretending they get periods, and now pretending they can breastfeed.

There was a thread on here about a man who had joined a woman only stillbirth support group. He wanted to try and experience what it would be like to have a stillbirth.

He went to horrifying lengths to attempt pretend to experience it. He was, apparently, supported by some women.

TRAs have done a fantastic job on convincing people that this is not a fetish. Any man pretending he can experience the biology of a woman is exercising his fetish (in my opinion, HQ).

And the utterly inhumane lengths that some of these men will go to, make them bloody dangerous. A male who wants to use women's trauma and discomfort to get sexual satisfaction is monstrous.

I sincerely hope the papers pick up on this.

The disillusionment of trans ideology is spreading fast. Many people will have absolutely no problem seeing this for what it is.

I agree - I have massive reservations about inducing lactation. But I guess it’s a personal decision for families and I was more addressing the idea of feeling uncomfortable in a breastfeeding group by a trans woman’s presence. If other dads are present too I’m really not sure I see the issue in this instance.

perhaps all of the women could start bringing their male partners until mister tittyfeeder gets uncomfortable

Why do men need to breast feed babies? Whose interest is that in? Why are you pushing for this perversion of nature I wonder?

@Dozycuntlaters the world has indeed gone mad.

If someone wants to wear a frock and call theirself Edith I don't give a rats arse but even after the SC ruling TW are still ignoring the law and biology.
I don't agree all trans people have mental health issues but in the case of TW breast feeding I agree.

I work at the highest level in my industry surrounded by men. I don't barge into their men's health events. I don't ask for a prostrate check. It's not being kind, it's delusional and unsafe.

Male people can produce a substance that no one has even adequately tested for chemical contents..

I’ve been googling if men can produce ‘breast milk’ and I am very confused.

Can men produce milk suitable to feed a baby like a woman ?

Hopefully it will happen but people are worried about being sued/attacked/fined
New mothers and people working at orgs like this already have issues with financial security and employment, so it's easy to threaten/silence them

I think we all know who's delusional on this thread. Testing one or two samples is not nearly enough to ensure whether male breastfeeding is a viable alternative to the mother breastfeeding her own baby. This has been explained in detail many times on this thread. It's not just what's in the milk, it's the extraordinary way in which the mother's body responds to the baby's needs and growth. That feedback mechanism couldn't happen in a male body.

Formula milk began before the Cochrane Institute was founded. I’m not sure “invented” is quite right - commercialised is maybe more like it ans supplemental feeding and wet nursing has long history. But there’s a lot of empirical data to show it’s not harmful. There’s a real difference between those situations and experimental male lactation. Someone could test it. But they haven’t. If the person OP mentions was a responsible parent they’d be getting medical advice/support and organising these tests to check they weren’t causing harm. OP doesn’t mention this - and before you say OP can’t know, I’d say thats unlikely because everyone sees and hears everything at a breastfeeding support group. There’s zero privacy.

We're all different. You clearly didn't find this an issue. When I was breastfeeding I felt happy to do it just about anywhere, and I was discreet, but the idea of having my latch examined in a public place with random members of the public wandering about nearby leaves me quite aghast. I would also add that the random members of the public might not be too chuffed either. My husband would probably avoid using a cafe at the same times as a group like that.

Everything around infant feeding should have the babies best interest front and centre.

So we have naturally occurring female breast milk as the optimum and when that's not possible we have extensively tested formula milk, which both parents (and anyone else) can use to feed a baby.

So what's the rationale for spending time and resources testing whether drug induced male secretions can show any benefit compared to the two tried and tested methods of infant feeding we already have?

In what way would this benefit infants?

It doesn't benefit them in any way at all. It's driven by the wants of a small number of men with an out of hand fetish. These men need to be told no very firmly by the authorities.

@Blueskies25 breastmilk is demonstrably superior to formula. What benefit to the baby is there in chemically induced lactation from a male?

Not beyond the realm of possibilities, likelihood 0.001%.

I Disagree, formula was invented as a means of providing nutrition to babies, they were capable of testing that to determine its nutritional value, there is a possibility that the same could be done with milk secreted from a male. You are delusional if you think you could say with certainty that this is not beyond the realms of possibilities

I'm not. There are zero good reasons for a man to involve a newborn infant in his role play. At best the baby gets nothing beneficial from it and at worst it's actively harmed. It absolutely is abusive.

Most of us are women on here - we know about babies and breastfeeding. Unfortunately we also know more than we'd like about the emotionally incontinent fantasies of men determined to breach the boundaries of women and children - and now babies.
The mother baby dyad is one of the last boundaries these men are attempting to breach - but will ultimately fail.

As a scientist, I really disagree. It would require a clinical trial in which babies are randomly assigned to their breastfeeding mothers, and "breastfeeding" fathers, and to compare the long term health outcomes of mum-fed vs dad-fed children. This would be to prove the lack of negative health effects of drug induced male milk without a clear hypothesis of the benefits. Assuming, of course, that we will ever be able to have some drugs that can induce full lactation in a male.

How can you tell transwomen are males? Society falling over itself to cater for their emotional needs ahead of the physical and emotional needs of newborn infants and birthing mothers. When I was pregnant I was so unwell I was unable to work, yet I was not permitted to take medications that would help, not because they were harmful to baby, but because ‘we don’t know if they are’. At every turn the pregnant and postpartum woman is made to put first the needs of the unborn/newborn child. Yet the moment a man ‘needs’ to do something that is quite obviously of no benefit to anyone but himself, and very likely harmful (or at least ‘we don’t know’) so called ‘inclusive feminists’ are up in arms, calling for open-mindedness. Where is the open mindedness towards the alcoholic pregnant woman whose need to drink might cause her baby fetal alcohol syndrome? It’s nowhere, despite that being vastly more common occurance than a breastfeeding transwomam. My god the sexism is off the wall.

Again, to reiterate, there is no way of you knowing this,

You have a very limited way to thinking if you think you can rule out with certainty such possibilities in the future

Traditionally LLL core groups were always mothers only.in the last 10 years or so some of their leaders opened their meetings to dads too and then started claiming they had 'always' been mixed. This was part of the issue raised by the 5/6 trustees who got booted as leaders and trustees just for pointing this out and trying to stick to the original purpose

It really isn’t likely that the human future near or far includes all fathers being encouraged to take hormones and drugs to grow breasts and lactate. Whatever deranged fantasies that poster has.

(Also a scientist. Not that you need to be one to see this.)