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How to talk to 5yo DS about non-binary / trans teacher

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NorthernLoon · 01/05/2025 20:38

DS is in reception. We received a message from the school recently advising that one of his teachers was leaving, and welcoming that teacher's replacement. The new teacher's title is "Mx" which Google tells me is a non-gendered title. So far so good.
Today DS met the new teacher for the first time and has come home saying the teacher "looks a bit like a woman, but not really, and has a man's voice". He didn't ask any specific questions about that, so I didn't offer any explanation. (And I'm aware I might be jumping to the wrong conclusion - could just be a slightly masculine looking woman with a 40-a-day habit for all I know!)
But assuming the teacher is a TW, how do I talk about that with a 5yo?! I don't want him to get in trouble at school. But I'm not happy to teach him a belief system i don't agree with.
He knows basic male/female anatomy, the correct names for private parts, and that he is a boy because he has a male body. He's gone through various sparkly/pink phases, and my sister is a fairly tomboyish PE teacher. So we've talked in very basic terms about social stereotypes around "gender" and how they don't really mean anything.
But where do I go from here? He's a gentle little boy - he would never want to hurt anyone, and he hates getting told off. But he would absolutely go into school and say "My mum says Mx ... is really a man". And my personal beliefs aside, I don't think that's helpful for anyone.

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HairyGarden · 01/05/2025 21:10

My children have a transwoman (male) teacher who goes by and. Luckily they’re older - teenagers - and they think it’s a load of nonsense but can be judicious if required. Much harder with a curious little one.

JoyousEagle · 01/05/2025 21:07

Well I’d assume they’re not a transwoman, as I assume they’d then want to be called Ms/Miss/Mrs.

So I’d assume a gender neutral male or female (I don’t think you can really tell for sure from the description your 5 year old has given).

I’m gender critical but I don’t think this needs explaining. If your son asked, the explanation I’d give would be the same as if my daughter asked why one teacher was Mrs and one was Ms, or if she asked why I used Ms rather that Mrs despite being married, and that’s just that some people like to choose a different title. I wouldn’t bring up “some people think that they’re not a man or a woman”.
If he asked whether they were a man or a woman, then I’d just say the truth (once I’d seen them and knew).

WearyAuldWumman · 01/05/2025 21:06

I worked in a secondary school where I covered for an absent 'Mx'. There was a nameplate for the classroom with a cartoon pic of a bearded person.

The S3/Y10 pupils dutifully referred to the teacher as 'Mx', but one then commented 'He says we've made him unwell, but we know he's just on holiday.'

I was only there for the week and chickened out - I turned a deaf ear to the comment.

The point I'm making is that children will inevitably recognise an individual's sex, no matter how much that person might wish otherwise.

SchoolDilemma17 · 01/05/2025 21:02

Gosh a difficult one. I wouldn’t be happy with this personally, but not sure how to best approach. Moving a child out of school is quite extreme. Have you discussed with any other parents?

Punzel · 01/05/2025 21:02

All the Mxs I know are trans men, which may explain the froggy “deep” voice whilst looking like a woman.

wobblyweewoman · 01/05/2025 21:01

I would check out the teacher first.

If it is a man I would just explain it to your child-

"some men like to dress up and pretend to be women and they get mad if you tell them they aren't women.
So don't say that to him, but don't worry if you do accidently say that to him you won't get in trouble with me I'll just laugh at the silly man trying to trick us into thinking he's a woman..... "

Gettingbysomehow · 01/05/2025 21:00

Why on earth do we have to put up with having to explain this shit to innocent children in their primary school. It's absurd.

Marylou2 · 01/05/2025 20:57

Pop in and have a word with the teacher about an unrelated subject. While the Mx sounds suspicious I'd do my due diligence before jumping to conclusions.

FlippyKiYayFlippyFlipper · 01/05/2025 20:44

I’d remove him from the school personally.

Lovelyview · 01/05/2025 20:44

Honestly, I'd move him to a new school. A 5 year old should not be subjected to someone's batshit ideology.