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I'm not sure Jo Maugham is quite well

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ArabellaScott · 01/05/2025 20:37

https://goodlawproject.org/we-have-been-given-a-huge-responsibility/

He's taking all your hundreds of thousands of pounds, but he can't tell you what he's doing with it cause seckrit.

And he knows all the best seckrit people who are humungosly good lawyers.

And he's got a skeleton key to the morals of the universe! By the power of Transkull!

‘We have been given a huge responsibility’ | Good Law Project

A message from our executive director, Jolyon Maugham, to the trans community.

https://goodlawproject.org/we-have-been-given-a-huge-responsibility/

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NecessaryScene · 03/05/2025 20:09

countrysidedeficit · 03/05/2025 19:59

I still don't understand what a tax barrister is even doing running human rights cases.

Beclowning himself, mainly.

the simpsons rake GIF
Nunaluna · 03/05/2025 19:59

countrysidedeficit · 03/05/2025 19:59

I still don't understand what a tax barrister is even doing running human rights cases.

Making money via the system before making even more money by criticising it

countrysidedeficit · 03/05/2025 19:59

I still don't understand what a tax barrister is even doing running human rights cases.

Nunaluna · 03/05/2025 19:54

WallaceinAnderland · 03/05/2025 19:47

JKR has the receipts from 2019

Delicious

WallaceinAnderland · 03/05/2025 19:47

JKR has the receipts from 2019

I'm not sure Jo Maugham is quite well
LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 03/05/2025 12:01

He’s quite simply deranged. I wonder if his wife is as bad as this? Can you imagine the atmosphere in their home if they’re both this bad, those poor kids?

Nunaluna · 03/05/2025 08:36

ArabellaScott · 03/05/2025 08:05

Not sure, but he apologises to the Standards Board here.

Ever the taste for drama isn’t there

ArabellaScott · 03/05/2025 08:05

Not sure, but he apologises to the Standards Board here.

I'm not sure Jo Maugham is quite well
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Nunaluna · 03/05/2025 07:55

SionnachRuadh · 02/05/2025 19:53

On both counts I have no idea.

I would think your KC lapses if you're no longer registered, but Jolyon seems to operate in his own reality.

My guess is he’s deregistered to run the GLP and be able to say/do what he likes without fear of investigation

Datun · 03/05/2025 07:46

ArabellaScott · 03/05/2025 07:16

Bloody hell. Just reading the GLP page on the SC judgement:

'To use single sex services, trans people and “non-conforming” cis men and women will be required to “prove” their “biological sex”: goodness knows how. Trans women, and cis women who don’t abide by gender norms, will be “frisked” by men. Trans men will be forced to identify themselves to everyone as trans by using female services. Younger trans people will be humiliated at school and at university.

The Nazis forced the LGBT+ community to identity themselves as “degenerates” by wearing pink triangles. Labour’s policy means that for trans people to move through the public sphere they will need, similarly, to identify themselves as trans in an increasingly violent and transphobic world.'

They're equating the.Labour govt with the Nazis. The emotive hyperbole is off the scale.

Ffs. Just for using the unisex toilet.

They should constantly be brought back to prisons, rape refuges and sport. Cherry picking in which facilities they are confident they can lie about their sex, and which they aren't, would be quite enlightening.

If men can be women in public toilets, why can't they be women in sport, or if they commit rape, in prison?

ArabellaScott · 03/05/2025 07:17

I thought some of the more unstable TRAs had made up all this stuff themselves, I didn't realise they had this lot pushing it.

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ArabellaScott · 03/05/2025 07:16

Bloody hell. Just reading the GLP page on the SC judgement:

'To use single sex services, trans people and “non-conforming” cis men and women will be required to “prove” their “biological sex”: goodness knows how. Trans women, and cis women who don’t abide by gender norms, will be “frisked” by men. Trans men will be forced to identify themselves to everyone as trans by using female services. Younger trans people will be humiliated at school and at university.

The Nazis forced the LGBT+ community to identity themselves as “degenerates” by wearing pink triangles. Labour’s policy means that for trans people to move through the public sphere they will need, similarly, to identify themselves as trans in an increasingly violent and transphobic world.'

They're equating the.Labour govt with the Nazis. The emotive hyperbole is off the scale.

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GiveMeSpanakopita · 03/05/2025 06:59

Just (finally) got round to watching his response video to the SC ruling.

He doesn't look well does he.

I've noticed that public figures who fancy themselves 'Progressives' and use that cloak to bully and malign people who disagree with them, all seem to exhibit an accelerated physical deterioration commensurate with the collapse of their beliefs when they come into contact with reality. It's like their Dorian Grey portraits have escaped from the attic.

Talcum X and Tennant exhibit similar. As does Prince Harry, by the way, albeit for different reasons.

DuchessofReality · 02/05/2025 21:02

ArabellaScott · 02/05/2025 15:39

Possible the legal bod involved is the Crash Wigley who wrote this:

https://goodlawproject.org/for-women-scotland-a-legal-critique/

ex Policy and Campaigns officer at Stonewall, 2016-2019.

To be fair, I do think that article raises some good legal points.

And so does Naomi Cunningham who has praised it on LinkedIn.

She disagrees with it, to be clear, but she is applauding it as a reasonably sensible attempt to actually address the legalities.

I think all the Human Rights arguments are nonsense, because obviously you can’t trash some people’s human rights to give other people extra ones, but for example the precedent set by the police case did worry me.

It was specifically brought to the attention of the Supreme Court and I think the FWS barrister said ‘it hadn’t aged well’ because it argued that no woman could possibly have a good reason for not wanting to be searched by a male. But nevertheless it was a HoL decision.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 02/05/2025 20:35

ArabellaScott · 02/05/2025 15:39

Possible the legal bod involved is the Crash Wigley who wrote this:

https://goodlawproject.org/for-women-scotland-a-legal-critique/

ex Policy and Campaigns officer at Stonewall, 2016-2019.

Crash Wigley?! Is that some sort of fetish name?

SionnachRuadh · 02/05/2025 19:53

GiveMeSpanakopita · 02/05/2025 16:08

May I ask two questions? Why is he no longer registered as a barrister and, given that he is not, is he still entitled to use the title KC?

On both counts I have no idea.

I would think your KC lapses if you're no longer registered, but Jolyon seems to operate in his own reality.

StrongasSixpence · 02/05/2025 19:29

Crash Wigley is an excellently silly name.

Has anyone considered that GLP is actually just a long running comedy piece? Joly's latest article would certainly fit.

CriticalCondition · 02/05/2025 16:59

ArabellaScott · 02/05/2025 15:39

Possible the legal bod involved is the Crash Wigley who wrote this:

https://goodlawproject.org/for-women-scotland-a-legal-critique/

ex Policy and Campaigns officer at Stonewall, 2016-2019.

There was a talk hosted by the LSE Law School last night on the implications of the judgment. The panel members were expert practitioners in the field Akua Reindorf KC, Ben Cooper KC, Naomi Cunningham and Sarah Vine KC.

Someone mentioned this piece by Crash Wigley. Let's just say that these leading lawyers gave it the attention and analysis it deserved.Grin

GiveMeSpanakopita · 02/05/2025 16:08

SionnachRuadh · 02/05/2025 12:36

Jolyon also has this habit of launching his crowdfunder immediately after he's sent his letter before action, but before he's received a reply. So donors will only see his side of the story, and not the respondent saying "Sorry Jolyon, we have read your letter and your claim is baseless for XYZ reasons."

It's not illegal, but it definitely smells like sharp practice and, were he still registered as a barrister, it's the kind of thing the Bar Standards Board might raise an eyebrow at.

May I ask two questions? Why is he no longer registered as a barrister and, given that he is not, is he still entitled to use the title KC?

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RedToothBrush · 02/05/2025 15:00

SlipperyLizard · 02/05/2025 14:52

@Darkgreendarkbark and @RedToothBrush good points, I certainly wouldn’t want to make it harder for individuals to crowd fund.

I think JM’s behaviour here is appalling, obscuring inconvenient facts to keep the donations rolling in.

The key point here:

Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean you should legislate.
Legislation has its limitations.
And you should never ever lose sight of the unintended consequences of your well intended ideas.

The road to hell is paved with them.

You need to think about practical terms and what you can define in law and what you can't. If you can't make clear and easy distinctions - which are reasonably understandable for law abiding citizens to follow and works in their own interests, you don't make law.

Because its Bad Law that Does More Harm Than Good.

SlipperyLizard · 02/05/2025 14:52

@Darkgreendarkbark and @RedToothBrush good points, I certainly wouldn’t want to make it harder for individuals to crowd fund.

I think JM’s behaviour here is appalling, obscuring inconvenient facts to keep the donations rolling in.

Darkgreendarkbark · 02/05/2025 14:29

SlipperyLizard · 02/05/2025 12:27

It is clear now (if it wasn’t before) that there needs to be some sort of regulation around litigation crowdfunding, which would include a requirement to accurately describe the case you are trying to bring, the legal basis for it and the advice you have had as to the prospects of its success.

Grifters like Maugham rinsing hundreds of thousands from vulnerable people (not because they are the most marginalised, etc, but because they are foolish enough to fall for his bullshit) with no accountability shouldn’t be tolerated.

He’s a boil on the legal profession.

I think this is true of crowdfunding in general, isn't it? Anyone can start a crowdfunder, and say it's for a good cause, and it's not regulated at all afaik. Donors can report fraud to the crowdfunding platform, but it's up to the platform to decide whether they get a refund. Caveat emptor.

I think people need to be more aware of what a registered charity is. The Good Law Project is not a registered charity, therefore they are pretty unaccountable. If someone wants to donate to a person or organisation which isn't a registered charity, they need to realise they're taking a risk. For example, regarding vulnerability, charities would have a policy on vulnerable donors, and they are accountable to the Fundraising Regulator and the Charity Commission. That said, it's not black and white - vulnerable people are allowed to spend their money in many ways that we may consider unwise, and making a donation to a cause they believe in might give them a sense of reward that outweighs the cost. And as for foolish people - well, you know what they say about a fool and his money - I have limited sympathy.

I do think, with the Good Law Project, that Jolyon is a true believer with a Messiah complex, rather than a cynical scammer.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 02/05/2025 14:23

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I'm not sure Jo Maugham is quite well
RedToothBrush · 02/05/2025 14:08

SlipperyLizard · 02/05/2025 12:27

It is clear now (if it wasn’t before) that there needs to be some sort of regulation around litigation crowdfunding, which would include a requirement to accurately describe the case you are trying to bring, the legal basis for it and the advice you have had as to the prospects of its success.

Grifters like Maugham rinsing hundreds of thousands from vulnerable people (not because they are the most marginalised, etc, but because they are foolish enough to fall for his bullshit) with no accountability shouldn’t be tolerated.

He’s a boil on the legal profession.

My only concern about that, is how do you legislate and distinguish because Gardening For A Legitimate Cause and Grifting?

The politics on this become relevant and your unintended consequence might be to make it impossible for good causes to be defended because they are unable to define themselves in law as being different to grifters.

Thats why I would be opposed to this as an idea; you'd do as much harm as good.

There is no substitute for better education about Cults and Exploitation unfortunately.