Does anyone else feel disheartened?

One of these men is not like the others.

Nice try.

This is so odd.
I cannot fathom in what way asserting the sex-based rights of females can possibly 'eliminate' trans people.
Why do males need to go into females' safe spaces or take females' prizes in order to be alive?
Why can't males either use males' spaces or compete for males' prizes (or as in many sports compete in the 'open' category), or if they are fearful of other males, start or campaign for more trans spaces and prizes? As to the latter, governments and global corporations are male-dominated the world over and many are very keen on showing solidarity with transwomen so it would be pushing on an open door.

Men who come onto a women’s board and deliberately disrupt the women who are discussing their feelings over a difficult situation deserve all our contempt.

Or it could be that your attitude towards women stinks and you’re being told so. I thought you were a woman? Don’t you know women are supposed to #bekind and not argue or whinge when their rights are being removed? Or is that only for actual women, not the “special” women?

I've been here longer than many of you

Six years, you say?

Have you heard of this amazing band called Nirvana?

I've been here longer than many of you and I know how this works.You've already derailed this from "are we feeling disheartened?" to "how dare you suggest we want to chase trans people out of society?"

My point is, you are getting the "disheartening" pushback you are because you can't keep your utter contempt for us to yourselves. All your fine talk about "safety dignity and privacy" quickly turns to denigration and disgust at the slightest opportunity, as we see here.

I never agreed to discuss the analysis. I only ever offered to discuss your initial assertion about the Declaration itself. That you are now frustrated that I won't let myself be dragged into a different discussion is your problem, not mine.

The message of the Declaration is clear: they don't care about trans women, as long as they don't come into women's spaces. End of story.

You have a message?

Can I add “unraveled” in reference to a friendly welcoming thread, that’s still going on in a perfectly reasonable fashion?

Asking for a friend….

When a chap pops up on a women's rights forum to scold the wims (for having rights in this case), it's not usually about wanting any actual information.

If you hang round here longer you will realise that there are some very knowledgeable posters on this board who will fact check any assertions you make.
So you had better ensure that when you state something to be true that it is true.
By relying on someone else's incorrect interpretation/analysis of a document rather than reading it yourself and then calling it a 'cheap point' rather than appologising for being inaccurate, you do your argument no favours.

Yup. So it’s pointed out @MadBadDaddy was spouting nonsense but apparently we’re baddies for pointing this out. I’d have thought he’d be relieved that no one was actually eliminating trans people.

Did anyone else's irony meter just explode as well?

Engage with some of the issues for women hon, then come back and do a bit more scolding ;)

Scoring cheap points off me doesn't change the message, you're just offering excuses to not engage with it.

I do agree but do many positive examples of feet being held to the fire. I do think we just have to keep plugging away and put up with no bullshit.

Please explain what is "comical" about describing my own ~lived experience~ among the trans community.

Please demonstrate that I am wrong about the GRA.

I won't be waiting, to be honest.

I don't care one bit about that analysis, because it wasn't the topic of your affirmation that ""The Declaration on Women's Sex-Based Rights" says otherwise. "Elimination" is the word they use." No, they don't. You lied.

What you're attempting right now is called moving the goalposts if I'm not mistaken. It's a dishonest tactic. But then you're a liar, so which by definition means you're dishonest, so it fits.

Oh definitely @MrsOvertonsWindow

Well when you've spent years gaslighting the population that men are now women, that the language of women is bigotry and that knowing that sex is binary is transphobic, the overreach is always plain to see.

The UN definition of genocide is

Definition
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group

https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

What national, ethnical, racial or religious group do "trans" identifying people belong to?

BTW Just repeating genocide over & over doesn't mean it's true.

It’s almost like words have no meaning for some people.

Your description of our community and especially the GRA stuff, was comical. You perform well.

The question on this thread is, underneath the jubilation you are so keen to demonstrate, are you feeling disheartened?

"an informed and qualified analysis"
😂😂

I posted a quote and a link to an informed and qualified analysis of the document, that lays things out exactly as I claim. Tell me what parts you dispute.

The same organisation also submitted this to Parliament. Their intentions are clear.