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Thank You from a Trans Lurker

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Seethlaw · 01/05/2025 16:42

I want to thank you all wonderful people for fighting the good fight despite everything that's been thrown at you. I was an intermittent lurker for years before your arguments finally made it through my barriers. I'm in awe of your courage and tenacity and impossible patience!

I'm a trans man from another European country. I used to be extremely baffled by you GC people. I couldn't help but wonder what on Earth possessed you to go after trans people. I couldn't understand how anyone could think that trans people, that minuscule minority, was any kind of threat to anyone. I was devastated when I learned that one of my favourite authors (not JKR) had "gone TERF".

Again and again, I went back to what I thought were the basics: there is nothing wrong with being trans, and we just want to live our lives in peace.

But stuff happened over the years, some in real life and some on MN where I would lurk once in a while. Coincidentally, it was on the day of the UKSC ruling that I found myself here again, and I was absolutely horrified, and I finally accepted the unacceptable: it was never the TERFs going after the trans. It was the trans going after women's places and even the very definition of the word "woman".

Since then, I've watched the fallout of the SC decision. And my stomach has been sinking as trans person after trans person has come here, trotted out the same old, long-debunked arguments, and hurled abuse and disrespect in the name of "Me, me, me!" And the thing is, I can't even fool myself that they are not "real" trans people.

Back when I transitioned, more than a decade ago, in my country, I searched for trans support groups, and I encountered that very phenomenon of trans people (mostly trans women, though by no means all of them) demanding that the world twist around them. I told myself then that they were not representative of trans people, but the thing is: they are the loudest ones, and the most demanding ones - and as such, the most visible ones. I don't know yet what I can or will do about that, but at least now I'm aware that when people talk about trans people, they might be thinking of such individuals.

Thank you to anyone who read that far, and thank you again for everything you've done. You people rock 👍 !!

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MoistVonL · 02/05/2025 12:39

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 12:28

I think I'm going to lay down and die about the breast feeding! 🤮 Good god. I need to go away and have a think about things.

And the transwoman who attends a menopause group for women going through a bloody tough time.

He rubbernecks at our health issues and inserts himself in conversations that have absolutely nothing to do with him and his experiences. We’re reluctant to bring up a lot of issues when he’s there because it feels invasive and voyeuristic.

If so many of us hadn’t experienced chest feeding blokes in breastfeeding groups, TW taking showers in the women’s changing rooms, turning up at menopause clinics and so many other places very clearly not for them, we might feel less suspicious.

SisterWendyBuckett · 02/05/2025 12:37

Thanks so much for this thread - it’s great to hear your perspective and I really appreciate your thoughtful take.

What I want is to hear more from rational, critically thinking transmen…the ‘trans’ space is so taken up with trans identified males, their demands and victim mentality. Not all are like this, but the ones who aren’t are often crowded out too.

I’m really interested in understanding more about females who not only identify as men, but have medicalised too. While I respect their personal decisions and beliefs, I want to know the truth of how they experience the world, I want to support them to not be afraid of truth, facts and reality.

My daughter very suddenly came out as trans 8 years ago, and began a medical path very quickly. She completely cut us off before she started T, but in the few months before that her personality changed dramatically, it was as if she’d been taken over by something and it was very disturbing. I tried and tried to talk to her rationally, but she wouldn’t go there. I now understand she was radicalised. The loss has been very difficult to bear, and I could never understand why she wouldn’t talk to me about any of the issues - other than repeat activist slogans and mantras.

So I’m all for hearing more from trans identified females, and creating a space where we can listen to each other, despite different opinions, with equal respect and care.

Helleofabore · 02/05/2025 12:34

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 12:28

I think I'm going to lay down and die about the breast feeding! 🤮 Good god. I need to go away and have a think about things.

I think that many posters have been in your situation.

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 12:28

Helleofabore · 02/05/2025 12:16

Another aspect that those censuring women for stating their need for single sex spaces and rejecting the attempts to convince them to allow some male people into those spaces is understanding that just those male people posting on this board is them transgressing boundaries into feminist spaces.

Any male being in single sex space that is not for them is transgressing boundaries to their own benefit. This is a measure of the success of their campaign to lower boundaries to be in spaces that they should be excluded from. Some people don’t recognise when their boundaries are being breached and when they should be alarmed.

There is currently a thread where a father wishes to feed their infant child the secretions from their breast and attend a breastfeeding support group. The space does not have to be a toilet, it can be any space.

Not to mention that those very male people who are there to transgress boundaries want some degree of alarm response. That is part of why they transgress boundaries. Even if it is a microagression on the female person's part of looking closely at the male person who shouldn't be there.

Even if there is no alarm reaction, the thrill of the transgression of the boundaries to be where they know they should not be may be strong.

Male people with sex offence history too often show a long history of not being caught or challenged in their build up to committing serious offence. Of course, this is not to say that all male people are like that. Or all male people with transgender identities are like that.

However, this type of thinking, the one that says to overlook the male people crossing boundaries, allows the person crossing boundaries to keep going and to go further.

I think I'm going to lay down and die about the breast feeding! 🤮 Good god. I need to go away and have a think about things.

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 12:22

Naepalz · 02/05/2025 12:10

The thing is, the OP has in my opinion been treated respectfully here, not because of his transman versus transwoman status but because of his attitude.
He has been respectful, polite, insightful and has replied with honesty to the questions he has been asked. He is aware of biological reality and the constraints of his trans status. If a transwoman did the same I'd give them the time of day despite in the past being decried as a hateful terf and a transphobe.
I think that if men identifying as women had kept well away from groups obviously designed for biological woman (miscarriage, menopause, breastfeeding etc) then there would have been a lot less animosity shown towards the trans community. To even attempt to include them in these groups is absolutely ridiculous. Everyone should know they have boundaries

God yes I can agree with that! How could they possibly think that was right smh

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 12:20

Helleofabore · 02/05/2025 12:08

Perhaps if you unpicked exactly what it is that those male people with transgender identities wish to campaign for while they are on this board it might start to become clear why feminists feel that those male people are transgressing boundaries just by posting here.

This is long and rambling, but maybe it will help..

The UK has provisions that mean that organisations and people can legitimately discriminate against a group of people based on a protected characteristic needing to be protected. ie Sex discrimination is separated into legitimate vs illegitimate discrimination.

Through the falsehood that somehow a male person with a belief that they are female, extreme activists sought to by pass the legitimate discrimination clauses that allowed female people to have single sex provisions (ie. spaces, opportunities including sport). Remember, being a 'female person' when you are a male person is only a belief, sincerely held or not. There is nothing about that belief that is based in material reality.

Illegitimate discrimination is still protected against in the EA as was mentioned in the judgement. This means that a transgender person should not be prevented from employment, housing, etc because they are transgender. The activist groups over reached and told organisations and individuals that this also included not being able to have single sex provisions if someone had or planned to get a legal certificate that was a legal fiction about their sex.

Some people think any discrimination is bad. But it is the very basis of safeguarding principles that are used to protect people in the UK. It can be argued that it is, in fact, discriminatory that one group of male people get special treatment in getting access to female sex based provisions. This is where it needs to be recognised that there has been additional privileges created for this group.

For instance, the human right for accessing a safe toilet should be based on 'what society views as reasonable'. Society understands that absolutely no spaces are 100% safe.

This is another fallacious argument that we see. The tactic goes 'because you cannot be 100% safe if this law is enacted, why bother? Bad people will still do bad things.' It is just bonkers when you start to unpick that, and again, what law is ever expected to deliver 100% safety? None. But still we see it rolled out.

So, the human right is that everyone should have access to a safe toilet.

And society has to balance out how to do this. They can only get the safety up to a reasonable level. This might shock some people. But it is considered acceptable risk that people of the same sex as the sex that the space is for, use that space.

No male person has a human right to expect privacy and dignity from other male people in a single sex space for instance. The category that is considered for those human rights decisions, is the sex category, is that they are male.

This is based on male strength and power, unique male needs, and male patterns of criminality.

Conversely, it is considered reasonable effort to put female people in with other female people. We shouldn't expect privacy from other female people in those spaces and there is considered acceptable risk that an average female person will be able to defend themselves from and / or run away from other female people.

When people start to claim that it is a human rights issue, they don't seem to understand the basis of the human rights they are claiming. And they are attempting to leverage a sub group of male people into the female sex based category. Because to them, personally and probably ideologically, it is 'kind' and 'respectful'.

Remember, those male people are only female based on their 'belief' which they believe is how a female person feels. Evidence shows that hormones and surgery do not change male patterns of criminality. A male person who has lost their penis due to disease or injury is just as male as one who has opted to have their penis removed due to their belief.

It seems to be all based on this misinformation that somehow this group should be given additional privileges above everyone else because of their belief?

And what other belief in UK society gets this special treatment- to bypass their body's category to get access to provisions that they should not be accessing when the category is vital for the needs within that category? Age? Disability? Is there any?

Therefore, a group of male people want to have:

Access to their single sex space
Access to unisex spaces
Access to the opposite sex space.

So, not only access to their single sex spaces, which we know other male people with transgender identities use without issues, but they get additional privileges of access to female single sex spaces and also they can use mixed sex 'gender neutral' spaces as well.

This means this expectation to use female single sex spaces is a privilege that requires female people to accept higher risk than male people. Because, remember there is no evidence that these male people, at any stage of transition, have any lower risk of committing male pattern crime than any other male in the UK.

Why should any group of male prisoners have access to the female prison estate? No other vulnerable male prisoners get that privilege. They are housed in the vulnerable male section at a male prison.

And why should any male person be given a role that should be for female people to progress female people (ie a woman's officer in the university's student union) when that male person has no fucking idea what it actually means to be a female person at that university. Just labelling themselves as a female student is not actually being a female student.

This is why we see the discussions repeating the extreme activist soundbites because those soundbites appeal to people's wish to be kind, to be righteous and to their lack of understanding about what makes a person transgender.

Those soundbites about 'only a few' are false when you consider the negative impact one male person can have on many female people.

And this is why discussion about 'genuine' transgender people is one we also see very regularly. But the real question should be, why do this group of male people get additional privileges that no one else gets?

All based on a belief about themselves that doesn't reflect material reality.

Thank you very much for taking the time to write that so clearly, I appreciate it. I will reread and ponder over it, it makes a lot of sense to me and helps me to see things more clearly. I know where to come if I have questions!

Helleofabore · 02/05/2025 12:16

Another aspect that those censuring women for stating their need for single sex spaces and rejecting the attempts to convince them to allow some male people into those spaces is understanding that just those male people posting on this board is them transgressing boundaries into feminist spaces.

Any male being in single sex space that is not for them is transgressing boundaries to their own benefit. This is a measure of the success of their campaign to lower boundaries to be in spaces that they should be excluded from. Some people don’t recognise when their boundaries are being breached and when they should be alarmed.

There is currently a thread where a father wishes to feed their infant child the secretions from their breast and attend a breastfeeding support group. The space does not have to be a toilet, it can be any space.

Not to mention that those very male people who are there to transgress boundaries want some degree of alarm response. That is part of why they transgress boundaries. Even if it is a microagression on the female person's part of looking closely at the male person who shouldn't be there.

Even if there is no alarm reaction, the thrill of the transgression of the boundaries to be where they know they should not be may be strong.

Male people with sex offence history too often show a long history of not being caught or challenged in their build up to committing serious offence. Of course, this is not to say that all male people are like that. Or all male people with transgender identities are like that.

However, this type of thinking, the one that says to overlook the male people crossing boundaries, allows the person crossing boundaries to keep going and to go further.

MarieDeGournay · 02/05/2025 12:16

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 10:54

I think just in general the way trans women are spoken about on here is demeaning, not necessarily in response to the very few trans women who have started threads. That's just my view, I don't expect anyone else to share it. We are all just expressing our own view of things.
I don't know what the answer is then if the trans community won't come together to solve this issue. It's a huge shame for the ones who are respectful of women's spaces and privacy etc and just want to quietly go about their lives. Are you now using womens facilities?

I think the attitude of most posters over the many many posts on the topic of transgenderism has been on the whole appropriate to the seriousness of the topic.

There have been cases where some women have completely lost it at transwomen, either as a group, as a social campaign, or as an individual TW who has posted something untrue, baseless, demeaning, condescending or all of the above. Like, completely lost it - probably reacting from a very deep place that provokes a very emotional response. It happens, but not often.

It's mostly posters countering what any passing TW says with a weight of facts, references, statistics, etc. That's because we're keen on facts and reality here, and we have a lot of well-informed and knowledgeable women who can supply links to reliable sources in the blink of an eye.

So a TW coming on here to condescendingly 'educate' us is likely to be met swiftly with a wall of verifiable facts, and TRAs tend not to react well to facts.

A third response is the witty kind - taking the piss out of people who are condescending, especially ones who belong to a social group who are appropriating your identity and encroaching on your rights, is a long-established form of resistance.

But we're never going to go along with what we know to be scientifically incorrect, socially destructive and inimical to women's rights just to #bekind to transwomen, individually or as a group.

Naepalz · 02/05/2025 12:10

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 11:41

The thing is I do agree about women's spaces, privacy and dignity and the whole situation with sport, refuges etc. I was just pointing out the huge difference with how trans men and trans women are spoken to and about on here. It does seem extreme sometimes and therefore unfair to the majority who aren't causing any bother.

The thing is, the OP has in my opinion been treated respectfully here, not because of his transman versus transwoman status but because of his attitude.
He has been respectful, polite, insightful and has replied with honesty to the questions he has been asked. He is aware of biological reality and the constraints of his trans status. If a transwoman did the same I'd give them the time of day despite in the past being decried as a hateful terf and a transphobe.
I think that if men identifying as women had kept well away from groups obviously designed for biological woman (miscarriage, menopause, breastfeeding etc) then there would have been a lot less animosity shown towards the trans community. To even attempt to include them in these groups is absolutely ridiculous. Everyone should know they have boundaries

Helleofabore · 02/05/2025 12:08

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 10:54

I think just in general the way trans women are spoken about on here is demeaning, not necessarily in response to the very few trans women who have started threads. That's just my view, I don't expect anyone else to share it. We are all just expressing our own view of things.
I don't know what the answer is then if the trans community won't come together to solve this issue. It's a huge shame for the ones who are respectful of women's spaces and privacy etc and just want to quietly go about their lives. Are you now using womens facilities?

Perhaps if you unpicked exactly what it is that those male people with transgender identities wish to campaign for while they are on this board it might start to become clear why feminists feel that those male people are transgressing boundaries just by posting here.

This is long and rambling, but maybe it will help..

The UK has provisions that mean that organisations and people can legitimately discriminate against a group of people based on a protected characteristic needing to be protected. ie Sex discrimination is separated into legitimate vs illegitimate discrimination.

Through the falsehood that somehow a male person with a belief that they are female, extreme activists sought to by pass the legitimate discrimination clauses that allowed female people to have single sex provisions (ie. spaces, opportunities including sport). Remember, being a 'female person' when you are a male person is only a belief, sincerely held or not. There is nothing about that belief that is based in material reality.

Illegitimate discrimination is still protected against in the EA as was mentioned in the judgement. This means that a transgender person should not be prevented from employment, housing, etc because they are transgender. The activist groups over reached and told organisations and individuals that this also included not being able to have single sex provisions if someone had or planned to get a legal certificate that was a legal fiction about their sex.

Some people think any discrimination is bad. But it is the very basis of safeguarding principles that are used to protect people in the UK. It can be argued that it is, in fact, discriminatory that one group of male people get special treatment in getting access to female sex based provisions. This is where it needs to be recognised that there has been additional privileges created for this group.

For instance, the human right for accessing a safe toilet should be based on 'what society views as reasonable'. Society understands that absolutely no spaces are 100% safe.

This is another fallacious argument that we see. The tactic goes 'because you cannot be 100% safe if this law is enacted, why bother? Bad people will still do bad things.' It is just bonkers when you start to unpick that, and again, what law is ever expected to deliver 100% safety? None. But still we see it rolled out.

So, the human right is that everyone should have access to a safe toilet.

And society has to balance out how to do this. They can only get the safety up to a reasonable level. This might shock some people. But it is considered acceptable risk that people of the same sex as the sex that the space is for, use that space.

No male person has a human right to expect privacy and dignity from other male people in a single sex space for instance. The category that is considered for those human rights decisions, is the sex category, is that they are male.

This is based on male strength and power, unique male needs, and male patterns of criminality.

Conversely, it is considered reasonable effort to put female people in with other female people. We shouldn't expect privacy from other female people in those spaces and there is considered acceptable risk that an average female person will be able to defend themselves from and / or run away from other female people.

When people start to claim that it is a human rights issue, they don't seem to understand the basis of the human rights they are claiming. And they are attempting to leverage a sub group of male people into the female sex based category. Because to them, personally and probably ideologically, it is 'kind' and 'respectful'.

Remember, those male people are only female based on their 'belief' which they believe is how a female person feels. Evidence shows that hormones and surgery do not change male patterns of criminality. A male person who has lost their penis due to disease or injury is just as male as one who has opted to have their penis removed due to their belief.

It seems to be all based on this misinformation that somehow this group should be given additional privileges above everyone else because of their belief?

And what other belief in UK society gets this special treatment- to bypass their body's category to get access to provisions that they should not be accessing when the category is vital for the needs within that category? Age? Disability? Is there any?

Therefore, a group of male people want to have:

Access to their single sex space
Access to unisex spaces
Access to the opposite sex space.

So, not only access to their single sex spaces, which we know other male people with transgender identities use without issues, but they get additional privileges of access to female single sex spaces and also they can use mixed sex 'gender neutral' spaces as well.

This means this expectation to use female single sex spaces is a privilege that requires female people to accept higher risk than male people. Because, remember there is no evidence that these male people, at any stage of transition, have any lower risk of committing male pattern crime than any other male in the UK.

Why should any group of male prisoners have access to the female prison estate? No other vulnerable male prisoners get that privilege. They are housed in the vulnerable male section at a male prison.

And why should any male person be given a role that should be for female people to progress female people (ie a woman's officer in the university's student union) when that male person has no fucking idea what it actually means to be a female person at that university. Just labelling themselves as a female student is not actually being a female student.

This is why we see the discussions repeating the extreme activist soundbites because those soundbites appeal to people's wish to be kind, to be righteous and to their lack of understanding about what makes a person transgender.

Those soundbites about 'only a few' are false when you consider the negative impact one male person can have on many female people.

And this is why discussion about 'genuine' transgender people is one we also see very regularly. But the real question should be, why do this group of male people get additional privileges that no one else gets?

All based on a belief about themselves that doesn't reflect material reality.

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 12:07

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 12:06

Fine have it your way 🙄

Perhaps I should measure them, they might be 5'9 3/4 or something. They're taller than me and I'm 5'8 1/2

Shadowsunray · 02/05/2025 12:06

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 12:00

I can't think of any reason why you think I would bother to make it up!

Really? You can't think of a single reason? Sounds like another lie to me.
Quite obviously the reason would be to justify your "the transmen I know are taller than the average British male (5'9) and pass" line.
I'm not going to derail this thread further by responding to you again.

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 12:06

Shadowsunray · 02/05/2025 12:01

No, there really aren't all that many. Being tall it's something I notice.

Fine have it your way 🙄

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 12:04

Helleofabore · 02/05/2025 11:52

Have you considered that 'transmen' are female people and therefore probably have a very good understanding of feminism and who it represents versus a male person who has tried to force feminists to include them?

Plus, if a male is on a feminism board demanding to be heard, I think it is safe to consider that they are in fact, campaigning for men's rights. Are there any men's rights activists that should be welcomed to a feminism chat board?

Yes obviously trans men will have more sympathy and connection to women's experiences. And yep you're probably right, the men shouldn't really be gatecrashing! 😁

Shadowsunray · 02/05/2025 12:01

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 11:58

I'm sorry but it's true!! There are plenty of tall women out there!

No, there really aren't all that many. Being tall it's something I notice.

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 12:00

Shadowsunray · 02/05/2025 11:56

I don't believe you. I'm 5'9 and it's VERY rare I meet women taller than me, or even women who are my height. Yet you know TWO transmen who are taller than me. Seems massively unlikely.

I can't think of any reason why you think I would bother to make it up!

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 11:58

Shadowsunray · 02/05/2025 11:56

I don't believe you. I'm 5'9 and it's VERY rare I meet women taller than me, or even women who are my height. Yet you know TWO transmen who are taller than me. Seems massively unlikely.

I'm sorry but it's true!! There are plenty of tall women out there!

Shadowsunray · 02/05/2025 11:56

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 10:59

I know a couple of trans men who are both taller than the average woman, about 5'10 and do actually look very male. I'm not sure what they are doing about toilets if they get barred from both. I imagine they will stop going to the gym if there isn't any separate spaces to change as I don't think they'd want any confrontation in the women's.

I don't believe you. I'm 5'9 and it's VERY rare I meet women taller than me, or even women who are my height. Yet you know TWO transmen who are taller than me. Seems massively unlikely.

ArabellaScott · 02/05/2025 11:53

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 11:15

Yes I agree with that but I do still think a trans woman would be treated differently even if they were being respectful. But I get it, this is a women's forum.

I do get your general point. On the whole I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Unfortunately over the years its been abundantly and repeatedly demonstrated that the type of man who seeks to transgress womens boundaries does so on purpose. That extends to online spaces created by and for women, like Mumsnet, and the feminist board thereon.

Helleofabore · 02/05/2025 11:52

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 11:41

The thing is I do agree about women's spaces, privacy and dignity and the whole situation with sport, refuges etc. I was just pointing out the huge difference with how trans men and trans women are spoken to and about on here. It does seem extreme sometimes and therefore unfair to the majority who aren't causing any bother.

Have you considered that 'transmen' are female people and therefore probably have a very good understanding of feminism and who it represents versus a male person who has tried to force feminists to include them?

Plus, if a male is on a feminism board demanding to be heard, I think it is safe to consider that they are in fact, campaigning for men's rights. Are there any men's rights activists that should be welcomed to a feminism chat board?

DialSquare · 02/05/2025 11:49

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 11:46

I can totally understand that

I mentioned it as another explanation as to why Transwomen may be treated differently to the OP. It’s not just down to attitude.

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 11:46

DialSquare · 02/05/2025 11:25

One thing to remember about this site is there are trans widows that post here and from what I understand, a Transwoman posting feels like just another invasion of their space.

I can totally understand that

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 11:44

Seethlaw · 02/05/2025 11:37

Not likely, because I don't pass very well. I still get regularly misgendered. So I personally wouldn't have that problem.

Other transmen I know might have that problem. And yet some others would refuse to use the women's toilet because it's too dysphoria-inducing. I don't know what they would do, but I strongly doubt any of them would blame women for wanting to reclaim their single-sex spaces - if only because they'd be too busy looking for immediate and practical solutions.

Yes I'm sure that's true.

PhoebesPony · 02/05/2025 11:41

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 02/05/2025 11:27

I used to think like you. A trans woman came onto this forum to plead the case for the genuine tw's who just want to get on with their lives. I wholeheartedly agreed, but pointed out that there were occasions when spaces defined by sex were necessary ( rape crisis centres, medical facilities, the usual) and that I'd be happy to join the fight for safe third spaces, because everybody deserves the right to privacy and dignity.
That's when I discovered that I was, in fact, a hypocrite, a bigot, a transphobe. Once I got over that shock I did as I was told and educated myself. My attitude to trans women (the old fashioned kind) hasn't changed. But now I'm fully behind keeping women's spaces for women. I might be ok with the occasional transwoman slipping quietly into the ladies' at the local pub, but 1. the blatant erosion of sex based rights throughout society has made that more difficult for everyone. And 2. the women who aren't ok with it are important too.

The thing is I do agree about women's spaces, privacy and dignity and the whole situation with sport, refuges etc. I was just pointing out the huge difference with how trans men and trans women are spoken to and about on here. It does seem extreme sometimes and therefore unfair to the majority who aren't causing any bother.

Seethlaw · 02/05/2025 11:39

DialSquare · 02/05/2025 11:25

One thing to remember about this site is there are trans widows that post here and from what I understand, a Transwoman posting feels like just another invasion of their space.

Oh. Thank you for mentioning that! I wasn't aware of that.

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