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'Different but of equal value' and gender

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soupycustard · 01/05/2025 15:46

I'm interested in how many posters say they don't consider they have a gender. I am very GC and of course the 'genderwoo' is utter nonsense, and the misuse of language by TRAs has been cynical and deliberate, which makes this a difficult question/issue to put into words. But to try... :
Aside from physical sex characteristics, I wonder (but I'm doubting myself now!) whether at population level, women are different from men in their attitude to and approach to things,and I'm not sure that's 100% down to nurture rather than nature.
I studied feminism in the 90s and at that time, it was all about the sexes being 'different but of equal value' so I think that is what I'm influenced by. Because that seemed to encompass different behaviours, eg would females, at population level, be more interested in looking after children than males (irrespective of educational attainment/pay etc), and if so is that something to do with 'gender'?
I would also add that even if I do wonder about 'gender' and whether I have such a thing, that does not make any difference to my GC position, in that to me it's yet another reason why a man wouldn't know what a woman feels like!

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soupycustard · 01/05/2025 16:06

Thank you for the responses.
Already slightly clarifying my debate with myself...
'Gender' as used now, and especially by TRAs, is indeed regressive and offensive.
But I think the 'different but of equal value' school of feminism in the 90s was wanting a female within a ' gender stereotype' to be respected/paid as much etc as a male. Ie the argument was not that gender didn't exist, but that gender differences should be respected as much as sex differences.

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CantHoldMeDown · 01/05/2025 15:53

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TeenToTwenties · 01/05/2025 15:53

I think looking after children may not be the best example.
Women carry children for 9 months, then breastfeed and are only fertile at certain times for a fixed number of years anyway.
From a biological point of view therefore we are surely far more invested in their safe upbringing than a man who can potentially procreate with any woman who will let him.
So I think your example is biology not 'gender'.

VickyEadieofThigh · 01/05/2025 15:53

I'm female - I have a sex.

Gender is regressive bollocks that has taken us back decades and encouraged people to mutilate their or their children's bodies.