FA to ban men from womens football

Fantastic! What a good news day. Football and netball. And no one’s being excluded. Men can play in men’s or mixed categories. No unfairness to anyone.

There never had been any unfairness to men (including transwomen) — all the unfairness was to women and girls.

While shopping online for a third surrogate child?

I think Justin Webb got into trouble at some point on similar

Good to read this.

Not the thread to list the other things about football, women's and men's that I would like to see change.

To be honest I’ve just complimented the BBC website for accurately saying they have been barred from “women’s football.” An improvement from pre-SC when they would have just said “football.”

I know it’s not perfect but the change in language is in the right direction and I prefer the carrot to the stick approach.

Did anyone catch the bbc one o'clock news on the TV.

Dan Roan, bbc sports correspondent, said '... transwomen - biological males- blah blah blah'.
He'd not have been able to call that out explicitly before I think?

I might have complained at the BBC News headline that was all about trans women being banned from playing in women’s football and the subsequent clip of some TW whinging about it. But he sounded so male and so annoyingly self pitying, I thought it would make some people stop and think.

More good news. Hopefully people are starting to see the endless whining from this tiny group of men that society has emboldened to breach women's boundaries. 😑

The radio isn’t the best medium for some speaking on this.

I mean for them that is.

It is. I’m so relieved the ruling went as it did.

We’d be in a bad place if it didn’t, I know I shouldn’t bother thinking of that but sometimes do.

This stat is not correct, either. WRN/FPfW established that last year, it was 72 men cleared to compete in women's football.

yeah, always the same arguments:

'this issue doesn't affect many people... it follows that "my side" must be given everything that it demands, the full list, in its entirety'.

work that one out.

It's like dominoes, they all seem to be going down at once. I wonder how much of this was coordinated behind the scenes, in terms of announcement timing.

I've thought for years that sport might be the key battleground. The average bloke in the street is more comfortable discussing fairness because of men being better at a thing than women than he is with fairness because of the danger men pose.

And the strange over-focusing on height? As if Natalie's (and other TW) only advantage is height? No mention of other physical attributes.

ETA: Sorry Quietly I see that's what you already said. It was odd.

I wish to fucking Christ someone in the media would report it more favourably:

the FA has said that they are changing their policy and that people born male but who now identify as transgender will be eligible to play in the men’s teams and not the women’s

From the BBC report
Natalie Washington, campaign lead for Football vs Transphobia, said transgender women are now likely to give up football "Most people clearly don't feel that they can go and play in the men's game for reasons of safety, for reasons of comfort."
Oh the irony 🙄

Too much like hard work, I expect. Too used to the cunty sort of female doing all the arranging for them.

I also noticed how much emphasis she put on the word she when talking about Natalie Washington. Fiona from SM was great though.

That statistic about it being only 20 players is what really enraged me with that World At One coverage. And they kept repeating it without a hint of self-awareness! Yes, this is so very sad for 20 men, and so we're framing our extensive headline coverage of this story for them. Nothing (excepting Fiona's fine contribution) about the hundreds of women and girls who will benefit.

I may have got quite shouty! Goodness knows what my elderly next door neighbour thought 😳

According to the Guardian report on this: "This decision is understood to affect 20 registered transgender players in England, and the FA said it would reach out to them to explain the changes." Only TWENTY. And yet potentially hundreds of women (on their teams, on the teams playing against them) disadvantaged by their inclusion. This makes me mad.

Yes! All the arguments and facts to hand, coherently and clearly expressed.

Contrast with Natalie the transwoman previously on: basically it's going to make me really sad. Everyone's been nice to me.

Of course they bloody have! People were too afraid to speak out and be called bigots! Women risked potential exclusion from their own teams for not going along with this pretence - and this sport means a hell of a lot to many women as well, Natalie, not just you!

Yes! Especially since she was presumably asked last minute when they couldn't get through to Sharron Davies 👏

Radio 4 now: Fiona from Sex Matters being clear and brilliant

Highlighting male physical advantage.
Women have not consented to playing with males.
Non-elite grassroots level needs to be just as fair as top level.
Women were effectively gagged at speaking out about males in women's teams.
People still fearful about speaking out
Men in football need to make them welcome (😀)

Fiona you were great!

Fucking Sarah Montague wheedling her question to the clearly male transwoman 'hmm now, I can't see you so, but, are you, I suppose, maybe physically a bit erm, bigger than the other players?'

Could practically hear her on her knees begging forgiveness for even trying to ask it. What a world!

This is bloody marvellous news.

I've spent the last 3 or 4 years sat here, gradually becoming more and more bewildered by the TRA's and their gender ideology. Having lurked here for a while now, you lovely lot have helped make me realise just how awful this was becoming and I thank you for it. I'm so grateful (even if I have lost friends for having GC views).

If I could, I'd kiss the feet of Maya Forstater, JK Rowling, Sharron Davies, the women of 'For Women Scotland', Sandy Peggie...I'm sure there are countless others but thank you so much for what you've all done to help this get across the line.