FA to ban men from womens football

She’s a walking face palm emoji.

Billie thinks that most 'cis' women support tw playing in women's football, so the BBC should also have interviewed a cis woman to give this view, not just a 'cis' woman who doesn't support it.

Well Billie would think that. I expect that whatever they think in private, the women Billie knows are too kind to say "No, you're wrong, you're a man and you shouldn't be on a women's team," to his face.

The poll on Dr W's website says it's closed due to limits exceeded!

Voted on the X one though.

https://x.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1930293476673106276

Sex Matters is doing a three part series on why female sport need protection. This is well timed.

It is a much believed fallacy that male people 'lose their male advantage' though.

They’ll talk about hypotheticals, imagined situations where a very tall, very strong person assigned male at birth transitions and dominates women’s sport

says Helen. Seemingly ignoring the fact that men are stronger than women, full stop. And MN is full of posts from women saying, my 12 year son could throw me around the room if he wanted to. Still, grifters gotta grift.

Definitely not going the way she would have wanted!

Over 7000 votes and 97% sex segregation!

Woah! It looks to have gone up around 900 votes in just under and hour. And the % for sex segregation hasn’t changed.

I've added my vote but it felt even more satisfying to vote on ex-Dr W's own website where admittedly the number of votes cast is lower at 268 but still a gratifying 85% are in favour of sport segregated by biological sex.

https://www.gendergp.com/trans-people-sport-and-the-problem-no-one-wants-to-solve/?utm_source=social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=helen_social&utm_content=blog_article

Meanwhile, Helen Webberly has an interesting poll.

https://x.com/helenwebberley/status/1929493309552054563?s=46

I wonder if she expected this result. 4000 votes so far and 96% support sex segregation for sport.

Ahhh. Billy. We know what rhymes with Billy. And it is apt.

“Billie” is wrong.

I think everything Billy says has to be taken with a pinch of salt.

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Billie isn't happy with the BBC article as he doesn't think it is impartial: I’m Billie from the article about the FA football ban on trans women : r/transgenderUK

Billie thinks that most 'cis' women support tw playing in women's football, so the BBC should also have interviewed a cis woman to give this view, not just a 'cis' woman who doesn't support it.

Billie also suggests that the female footballer chose to stay anonymous because her opinion isn't popular, even though the stated reason was fear of reprisals, which we know to be the case because of how Cerys Vaughan was treated.

Honestly, it just shows how utterly futile it is to try to get these men to see things from women's perspective. They surround themselves with people who unquestionably affirm them, and from this position they discount other women's concerns. They are so selfish and self-centred.

I am - as usual - late to the convo.

I did, once upon a time and many years ago, deal with football liability claims, amongst other things. Way back before transgender players were ever an issue..

Football Clubs usually get their cover through some sort of scheme, often at county level, to make it cheaper. It will provide PL for physical injury (not between players in course of game) and third party property damage, EL for injury to employees, and officers and professional indemnity to cover wrongful acts (like discrimination), and claims for libel and advice given. Player to player liability and accident cover are usually available as add ons.

I doubt insurers had much sway in affecting policy at the FA. I am not sure that the inclusion of transgender players presented a significantly higher risk to insurers, despite posing an increased risk to female players. As long as clubs were following the FA guidance on transgender eligibility it would have been hard for anyone to pursue a claim for an injury on the pitch, unless the player causing the injury was particularly egregious in their foul play. Just being bigger and stronger wouldn't be enough to make the player liable for injury through standard play. Just for context, I saw just one player to player claim for the scheme I dealt with and it got booted out (pun intended) because the claimant had caused his own injury. He'd gone in for a completely wild tackle, totally misjudged and busted his leg. Ref had red carded him on the stretcher.

I do think the FA are responsible, at least morally, for women who have sustained serious injuries from male transgender players in the past, although whether they could be held legally liable I have no idea.

I think insurers and FA feared claims for discrimination, both the financial effect and the publicity, much more and thus inclusion of transgender players in the women's game would have been fully accepted by insurers.

Basically fairness and safety for women didn't come into the equation.

I am getting slightly annoyed with this not safe in the men's whatever as it has never been proven beyond the 'feelz' of these people.

The sad truth is that Billie is probably not good enough to play on the men's team. Whereas he brings extra strength and speed to the women's team, and it centres attention on him.

But the TRA would tell us that the women quoted should be ashamed of their views and that is why they are anonymous- even though the reality is their anonymity is required to protect them

Quite. It's such a jarring statement in the article and yet the 'journalist' just ignores it.

They could also ask why he feels safe as the focus of a BBC article, but the women who disagree do not feel safe.

Obviously the women who are against this have to remain anonymous due to the hate they receive from the #BeKind crowd.

For the men they like to proudly show off the results of their transition. Their gender transition has made them special and they're getting media attention. You would expect nothing less from the people who "just want to live their lives in peace".

I read the Poor Billie article this morning. No exploring how men's football should change to become a safe environment for all men.

I didn't find it a balanced article on that basis.

The media really seems to go with the mental health angle, suggesting that this is the primary aim of including males in the women's teams. The trans players could still be included if they stayed on as coaches or referees. They would still be part of the team, they would get exercise and could pass on their skills, they would still have the camaraderie and social life that comes with being part of a club. All wonderful things for someone's mental health. However, Billie turned down this opportunity because Billie is only interested in women's football if he can play competitively.

Happy Women get to play Football day everyone in England !!!!

Great post from

Women's Rights Network - WRN

Today’s the day that men are kicked out of women’s football.

At long last women’s football is for women only (unless you live in Wales where the Wales FA has yet to change its policy). There’s a flurry of interviews out there with males bemoaning the fact that women’s football is now fair and safe. Some useful thoughts to retain while listening to the whinge-fest:

⚽️ No one is banned from sport. Males can play on men’s teams where they belong. And use the men’s changing rooms and toilets where they belong.

⚽️ If men who are gender-non-conforming feel ‘unsafe’ in men’s teams then that’s a man problem. It’s not down to women to sort out men’s issues.

⚽️ Women who are gender non-conforming can play in the women’s teams as they always have. Unless they’re on testosterone because that’s cheating. If you choose to cheat then you should be banned from sport.

This day is long overdue.

Wales is next.

I suspect that the team he is playing for rather cynically welcome the unfair advantage that it gives them to have a male on the team.

Yes Billie who transitioned at the age of 24 and is now 28 somehow isn't safe with males like him, why not?

Journalist should be drilling down and asking why but they won't.