Killing his daughter for TikTok shame

Probably because those chapters you mention were part of the long, slow development of our country as it grew into what it is today, events informed by the past that would go on to shape the future.

Which is quite different to men from regressive cultures immigrating to western nations and bringing their religion with them, that then results in women being randomly murdered.

What are you on about? The IRA weren't trying to bomb England into embracing Catholicism, you get that, right? Their acts of terror weren't designed to punish "infidels".

It's frequently culture. I.e. notions of family honour is some places are dependent upon the virginity of daughters and thus a daughter who is wayward in any way is seen as a problem. Not just Muslim cultures either, also Christian and Hindu. And 'bride burning' has been a feature of Hindu culture, intertwined with dowry demands from the husband's family to the wife's family.

The salient point here is that there is such a thing as “honour killing”. I abhor the term, but to say it has nothing to do with religion is absurd.

I’m really not bothered if you or anyone else want to call them “Catholic bombings”. I’m an agnostic atheist. I don’t have sacred castes.

They were "Irish" bombings, but the enmeshment of religion in the history of Ireland, going back as far as Laudabiliter of 1155, means that they are "Catholic" bombings too.

Because it is not true

Utter rubbish

They were frequently described as “Irish” though.

I take it you mean “Manchester bombings” by the IRA, because I think most people will reasonably think of the more recent misogyny-driven Islamist terror attack on some young women and girls at a pop concert.

Manchester bombings, Warrington, Brighton, Mountbatten etc
None of these are described as "Catholic crimes"

While we are on the subject of Catholicism though I find it interesting that evil done "in its name" is rarely described as a Catholic crime.

This is true. We see "islamist" prepended to "bombing" and "terrorism", yet the number of history books describing the Gunpowder Plot as "catholicist terrorism" is zero. In fact, most of the Reformation and subsequent Jacobite rebellion parts of British history are framed as succession wars, not religious wars; if this wasn't the case, the Jacobites would be called after the religion they shared, not the royal dynasty they supported.

If you want me to notice your posts its better if you @ me properly
And did I say you hated Islam? I have no idea if you do or whether you hate any religion. Personally I am not a fan of any organised religion and The Catholic Church as an entity is especially awful IMO
I am not very familiar with The Bible but I doubt it mentions abortion or reproductive rights at all, however some people (usually men) use Catholicism to control women as much as any other religion does.
While we are on the subject of Catholicism though I find it interesting that evil done "in its name" is rarely described as a Catholic crime.

Honour and shame always adversely affect women the most. How else is a man supposed to wield effective control over what he thinks of as the sentient walking uteri that form part of his property?

Yeah, you hate the Catholic church. A lot of people do.

The Filipino abortion ban will be a prime example of the men in charge using the religion du jour to justify what they want to do to women. As you say, other majority-Catholic countries, including Italy, have at least some abortion provision.

Christians come with beliefs ranging from vehemently pro-choice to anti-abortion under all circumstances, depending on their denomination and how they interpret their scripture. Islam is pretty much the same: you've got extremist Wahhabism Sunni and the Iranian version of Twelver Shia through to the relatively liberal attitudes found in Turkey and Lebanon.

We absolutely should be talking about how men take religion and twist it to oppress women. We absolutely should be talking about how that looks different across different religions. We need not to be blaming the religion for how men choose to abuse it.

Interesting insight, thank you.

You are totally correct. Honour and shame is highly socially conservative, oppressive, and damaging. Anthropologists (and domestic social commentators living in affected communities) were on to this in the 1960s, but it took a while afterwards to fully acknowledge that it mostly negatively affected women and it wasn’t a benign way of holding ‘a society’ together.

If that was the case, these murders would be common in other Muslim-majority states. Islam gets overlaid on the pre-existing culture, same as any other religion, hence the high prevalence of "honour" murders in Hindu-majority India.

The risk factor is a shame-based morality system with families deemed collectively responsible for moral transgressions made by any single member. Societies where individuals are responsible for themselves and where "what the rest of the village thinks" is relatively unimportant have fewer of this type of murder.

There are plenty of examples of white males annnihalating their entire families. Some are notionally Christian. Some atheist. Some culturally Christian.

Its so lazy to present this as a religious issue. Yes, religion is sometimes used as an excuse for this shit but it isn’t the actual cause. The cause is deeply dysfunctional psychologically warped men seeped in misogyny which goes under the radar because ‘it’s just what men are like’.

Not everything is about bloody Hamas - who have no problem murdering people who disagree with them.

Wait I just said something awful about Pope Francis. Will I be accused of hating Catholicism? I highly doubt it. There is a lot of hypocrisy and sanctimony around the gate keeping. Is the denial of abortion rights in the Phillipines a cultural or religious issue? It categorically cannot be a religious issue since many catholic countries do allow abortion correct @Hopping Green?

Bravo! I am guessing you may be Iranian given your user name.