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Transmen who have been raped by transwomen.

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TicklishLemur · 30/04/2025 18:30

This seems to be a serious and common issue. A transman posted her story on twitter, and there has been a number of other accounts shared. Including one where the victim in question was only 12 years old! You can see the two posts here:
https://x.com/ged68050/status/1917311182223929615

Have others come across this issue before? I remember reading a while back about Rose Montoya (the trans-identified man who exposed his breasts at the white house) raping several transmen, including one recovering from genital surgery and unable to fight back. There were also reports of Eli Erlick (a trans-identified man and activist) committing severe sexual assaults (forcible fisting) on several transmen.

Both victims on twitter spoke about attempts to silence them within the transgender community and shaming for having spoken up. I wonder how many other victims there are of this kind of VAWG, and if they are being obscured due to their self identification as men and their attacker's self identification as women.

https://x.com/ged68050/status/1917311182223929615

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INeedAPensieve · 30/04/2025 21:06

ArabellaScott · 30/04/2025 20:59

The ex partner of a prominent Scottish transwoman posted on here a bit. She had been in an abusive relationship with him, raped. And was at that time going to get married iirc to her new partner. I cant recall if she'd destransitioned or not. I hope she's well, I do think of her sometimes.

Unfortunately her story was picked up and used in the media, and she'd understandably wanted to avoid that for fear of attracting more abuse.

That's absolutely awful. I didn't realise that. I've had a quick search online and I think I know who that transwoman is you mean. I already knew he was not a nice person anyway due to other things he'd done (with photographic evidence). Hmmm. Horrible that's happened and he's not been held accountable.

Helleofabore · 30/04/2025 21:00

ArabellaScott · 30/04/2025 20:59

The ex partner of a prominent Scottish transwoman posted on here a bit. She had been in an abusive relationship with him, raped. And was at that time going to get married iirc to her new partner. I cant recall if she'd destransitioned or not. I hope she's well, I do think of her sometimes.

Unfortunately her story was picked up and used in the media, and she'd understandably wanted to avoid that for fear of attracting more abuse.

I remember. That was very concerning for her. I hope she was ok.

ArabellaScott · 30/04/2025 20:59

The ex partner of a prominent Scottish transwoman posted on here a bit. She had been in an abusive relationship with him, raped. And was at that time going to get married iirc to her new partner. I cant recall if she'd destransitioned or not. I hope she's well, I do think of her sometimes.

Unfortunately her story was picked up and used in the media, and she'd understandably wanted to avoid that for fear of attracting more abuse.

CaptainFuture · 30/04/2025 20:52

transman posted her story on twitter, and there has been a number of other accounts shared. Including one where the victim in question was only 12 years old!
Sorry a 12 yo transman??

Walkden · 30/04/2025 20:50

"True, but I do think this is a particularly high risk area. We have lots of neurodiverse, mentally ill and deeply vulnerable young women identifying as trans"

This must be a concern when some posters ( on other threads) are suggesting transmen use male toilets rather than the women's....

Helleofabore · 30/04/2025 20:45

oh. cross posted.

Helleofabore · 30/04/2025 20:44

I remember the accusations about Montoya at the time. I remember also hearing from Benji from Canada when she first detransitioned that she told the story of the 'transgender youth group' that was very small with just some teenaged female people and adult male people (ie transwomen) as 'leaders'. She was very clear that those male people preyed on the teenaged female people who had declared they were 'transmen'.

She told the world that these male people had sex with all the teenagers. These were very vulnerable teenaged girls and they were groomed.

StripeySuperNova · 30/04/2025 20:32

It was Benji, GNC Centric on You Tube. She has her own channel but I know she talked about this issue on The Mess We're In with Glinner and Arty Morty.

TicklishLemur · 30/04/2025 18:52

IllustratedDictionaryOfTheDoldrums · 30/04/2025 18:49

Yes, not rape specifically but definitely predatory behaviour. There was a podcast episode a few years back (on Benjamin Boyce?) where a detransitioner spoke about how she and other young trans men went to 'queer' support groups with older trans women and got into relationships with them. Iirc the trans men were teens, maybe 15 or 16, and the trans women were older, twenties or thirties. She spoke about how keen she and her friends were to be kind and inclusive, and also how when they did try raise objections, it was framed as 'male privilege'. I seem to remember they were taken to some kind of porn awards event when underage.
The whole thing was messed up.

Yes the accusation of 'male privilege' being used to silence transmen by transwomen is endemic. It's absolute DARVO and insane that anyone could believe it.

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IllustratedDictionaryOfTheDoldrums · 30/04/2025 18:49

Yes, not rape specifically but definitely predatory behaviour. There was a podcast episode a few years back (on Benjamin Boyce?) where a detransitioner spoke about how she and other young trans men went to 'queer' support groups with older trans women and got into relationships with them. Iirc the trans men were teens, maybe 15 or 16, and the trans women were older, twenties or thirties. She spoke about how keen she and her friends were to be kind and inclusive, and also how when they did try raise objections, it was framed as 'male privilege'. I seem to remember they were taken to some kind of porn awards event when underage.
The whole thing was messed up.

TicklishLemur · 30/04/2025 18:38

VoodooQualities · 30/04/2025 18:33

Awful yes. But... men preying on vulnerable women? Plus ca change.

True, but I do think this is a particularly high risk area. We have lots of neurodiverse, mentally ill and deeply vulnerable young women identifying as trans. And who are they encountering in that community? Lots of older, heterosexual men who commit sexual offences at an even higher rate that other men. It's a recipe for disaster.

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VoodooQualities · 30/04/2025 18:33

Awful yes. But... men preying on vulnerable women? Plus ca change.