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Transmen who have been raped by transwomen.

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TicklishLemur · 30/04/2025 18:30

This seems to be a serious and common issue. A transman posted her story on twitter, and there has been a number of other accounts shared. Including one where the victim in question was only 12 years old! You can see the two posts here:
https://x.com/ged68050/status/1917311182223929615

Have others come across this issue before? I remember reading a while back about Rose Montoya (the trans-identified man who exposed his breasts at the white house) raping several transmen, including one recovering from genital surgery and unable to fight back. There were also reports of Eli Erlick (a trans-identified man and activist) committing severe sexual assaults (forcible fisting) on several transmen.

Both victims on twitter spoke about attempts to silence them within the transgender community and shaming for having spoken up. I wonder how many other victims there are of this kind of VAWG, and if they are being obscured due to their self identification as men and their attacker's self identification as women.

https://x.com/ged68050/status/1917311182223929615

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TicklishLemur · 02/05/2025 18:36

ArabellaScott · 02/05/2025 18:30

'Last August, Reduxx revealed a social media trail that demonstrated how Ireland groomed a teen girl into transgenderism and “pup play” through Pride in Surrey. Ireland began interacting with the girl online when she was as young as 16 years old and assisted her to transition into a “boy” and “leatherpup.”'

My God! These poor children are so vulnerable to those beasts

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ArabellaScott · 02/05/2025 18:30

'Last August, Reduxx revealed a social media trail that demonstrated how Ireland groomed a teen girl into transgenderism and “pup play” through Pride in Surrey. Ireland began interacting with the girl online when she was as young as 16 years old and assisted her to transition into a “boy” and “leatherpup.”'

ArabellaScott · 02/05/2025 18:29

Transition fantasy was reported from court by local womens rights group.

reduxx.info/uk-pride-group-founder-and-trans-activist-found-guilty-of-raping-12-year-old-boy/

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TicklishLemur · 02/05/2025 18:21

ArabellaScott · 02/05/2025 18:16

See Stephen Ireland. As far as I can tell, he groomed a girl who id'd as trans and involved her in pup play etc, but also abused boys and talked about forcibly transitioning one.

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Shocking. Do you have a link to this information? I couldn't find anything about a trans-identified girl or the forcible transition.

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ArabellaScott · 02/05/2025 18:16

WarriorN · 01/05/2025 19:24

I’m sure Ritchie Heron has described witnessing this kind of grooming and assault occurring . And TW grooming a girl to become trans as part of the abuse

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See Stephen Ireland. As far as I can tell, he groomed a girl who id'd as trans and involved her in pup play etc, but also abused boys and talked about forcibly transitioning one.

WarriorN · 02/05/2025 17:58

TicklishLemur · 01/05/2025 19:32

That's interesting, was he just talking about trans-identified girls or also trans-identified boys? I do wonder whether young trans-identified boys have also been victimised by adult men who are in the trans community.

The same rules seem to apply though, male on female sexual violence is the norm.

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iirc both.

I believe he may have a book coming soon, though he does describe a lot of this on his substack.

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TicklishLemur · 02/05/2025 16:38

mrshoho · 01/05/2025 20:12

It is such a disturbing and sinister strand to this ideology. Why did grown adults make such an effort to bring children into it? I know the financial and business opportunities is one aspect but there are also paedophiles and abusive adults with devious motivations. Discord chat rooms where the moderators were supposed to be in charge but joined in with the shaming and bullying. It all sounded very childish to me until I really thought about what was happening. The moderators appeared to be based in the US and somewhat hero worshipped by the others. My dd moved on from it and seems to be in smaller Instagram groups. I don't know whether discord has improved it's safeguarding. I messaged and emailed but only ever got basic stock replies.

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I do think there has been a consistent but very, very small number of children with genuine gender confusion/dysphoria over the years. Most will grow up to be gay or lesbian and what they actually need is therapy and support to learn to love their body as it is.

But in the last few years we have seen a concerted effort to recruit more and more children into what is really a cult, and most these days don't meet the above profile but instead have various vulnerabilities that make trans-identification more likely. It's a cynical ploy to make transvestite men look more sympathetic by associating themselves with vulnerable children.

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mrshoho · 01/05/2025 20:12

TicklishLemur · 01/05/2025 19:17

Yes absolutely. All young people are vulnerable to a degree but one struggling with their identity, who may feel alienated from their family and who is more likely to have comorbidities like autism, depression, or adverse childhood experiences is even more so.

The post of the transman who was having a 'hard time' at home and leapt at the chance to stay with someone they saw as being like an aunty demonstrated that perfectly. A deeply vulnerable and sad little girl, something her rapist used to manipulate her with. It's heart breaking.

Although it appeared she was already experimenting with a transgender identity, I can't help but wonder whether such a traumatic event, followed by an abortion which would also have been very traumatic for a child, cemented the gender dysphoria and led to her deciding to become a transman as an adult.

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It is such a disturbing and sinister strand to this ideology. Why did grown adults make such an effort to bring children into it? I know the financial and business opportunities is one aspect but there are also paedophiles and abusive adults with devious motivations. Discord chat rooms where the moderators were supposed to be in charge but joined in with the shaming and bullying. It all sounded very childish to me until I really thought about what was happening. The moderators appeared to be based in the US and somewhat hero worshipped by the others. My dd moved on from it and seems to be in smaller Instagram groups. I don't know whether discord has improved it's safeguarding. I messaged and emailed but only ever got basic stock replies.

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TicklishLemur · 01/05/2025 19:32

WarriorN · 01/05/2025 19:24

I’m sure Ritchie Heron has described witnessing this kind of grooming and assault occurring . And TW grooming a girl to become trans as part of the abuse

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That's interesting, was he just talking about trans-identified girls or also trans-identified boys? I do wonder whether young trans-identified boys have also been victimised by adult men who are in the trans community.

The same rules seem to apply though, male on female sexual violence is the norm.

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WarriorN · 01/05/2025 19:26

And I do remember GNCcentric describing this as one of the reasons she detransitioned. That was way back in 2017/18 iirc

WarriorN · 01/05/2025 19:24

I’m sure Ritchie Heron has described witnessing this kind of grooming and assault occurring . And TW grooming a girl to become trans as part of the abuse

PriOn1 · 01/05/2025 19:22

Paraphilias cluster and many cross dressing men have been shown to be exhibitionists and sexual offenders. No surprise that when these men are given easy access to anyone smaller and weaker, that their nature shows.

I wish more women were aware of this and that it hadn’t become unsayable among the young and naive.

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TicklishLemur · 01/05/2025 19:17

mrshoho · 01/05/2025 19:02

This is a really important feature that needs to be addressed. Young transmen (girls) in particular are incredibly vulnerable to online grooming. My daughter although not trans has had experience of online trans friends who have been subject to what I could see as coercive abuse from other trans by way of bullying, humiliation, aggression, blackmailing. Really nasty and manipulative. From the limited details my daughter would tell me about even I as an adult found it very confusing and really hard to know what was real. I suspect much older transwomen (men) were behind the worst of it. I don't think in the cases I know of it came to meeting in real life but the it doesn't surprise me that trans on trans abuse is very real.

Yes absolutely. All young people are vulnerable to a degree but one struggling with their identity, who may feel alienated from their family and who is more likely to have comorbidities like autism, depression, or adverse childhood experiences is even more so.

The post of the transman who was having a 'hard time' at home and leapt at the chance to stay with someone they saw as being like an aunty demonstrated that perfectly. A deeply vulnerable and sad little girl, something her rapist used to manipulate her with. It's heart breaking.

Although it appeared she was already experimenting with a transgender identity, I can't help but wonder whether such a traumatic event, followed by an abortion which would also have been very traumatic for a child, cemented the gender dysphoria and led to her deciding to become a transman as an adult.

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TicklishLemur · 01/05/2025 19:12

OneGreyScroller · 01/05/2025 18:38

I talked about this in a post before. All Adult Human Females should be welcome in female spaces, regardless of their appearance.

I also think this is why 3rd spaces aren't suitable, and that there would need to be four spaces, otherwise there would be sitautions where AHMs and AHFs are mixing, and this could lead to situations mentioned above.

AHMs retain their offending behaviour, so why should AHFs be forced into a 3rd space with them.

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I think if the third space is things like single user fully enclosed toilets then that is fine. But a mixed trans ward or such would be dangerous. Trans-identified women need protection from men just like any other woman. These examples show how true that is.

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Helleofabore · 01/05/2025 19:11

TicklishLemur · 01/05/2025 18:33

Where is the safeguarding? Why are underage children who are already particularly vulnerable being mixed in with adult men? It's a disgrace.

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yes.... right.... How many posters here do you see say they know all about safeguarding, yet immediately then show that they know nothing about strong safeguarding at all?

mrshoho · 01/05/2025 19:02

This is a really important feature that needs to be addressed. Young transmen (girls) in particular are incredibly vulnerable to online grooming. My daughter although not trans has had experience of online trans friends who have been subject to what I could see as coercive abuse from other trans by way of bullying, humiliation, aggression, blackmailing. Really nasty and manipulative. From the limited details my daughter would tell me about even I as an adult found it very confusing and really hard to know what was real. I suspect much older transwomen (men) were behind the worst of it. I don't think in the cases I know of it came to meeting in real life but the it doesn't surprise me that trans on trans abuse is very real.

OneGreyScroller · 01/05/2025 18:38

TicklishLemur · 01/05/2025 18:34

Yes, I have concerns regarding the exception allowing transmen to be excluded from female only space. I hope it is used very sparingly. I can understand it's application to something like a rape crisis centre, where women may be traumatised by the presence of someone they perceive to be male, but organisations like Sex Matters are trying to say it applies much more widely, such as to toilets. I can think of no good reason to ban female people from female toilets based on their appearance. It appears to undermine the clarification that sex means biological sex only.

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I talked about this in a post before. All Adult Human Females should be welcome in female spaces, regardless of their appearance.

I also think this is why 3rd spaces aren't suitable, and that there would need to be four spaces, otherwise there would be sitautions where AHMs and AHFs are mixing, and this could lead to situations mentioned above.

AHMs retain their offending behaviour, so why should AHFs be forced into a 3rd space with them.

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TicklishLemur · 01/05/2025 18:35

CaptainFuture · 30/04/2025 20:52

transman posted her story on twitter, and there has been a number of other accounts shared. Including one where the victim in question was only 12 years old!
Sorry a 12 yo transman??

An adult transman now, but 12 years old at the time of the rape. However, already trans-identified by that age by the looks of it as she met the rapist at a trans support group.

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TicklishLemur · 01/05/2025 18:34

Walkden · 30/04/2025 20:50

"True, but I do think this is a particularly high risk area. We have lots of neurodiverse, mentally ill and deeply vulnerable young women identifying as trans"

This must be a concern when some posters ( on other threads) are suggesting transmen use male toilets rather than the women's....

Yes, I have concerns regarding the exception allowing transmen to be excluded from female only space. I hope it is used very sparingly. I can understand it's application to something like a rape crisis centre, where women may be traumatised by the presence of someone they perceive to be male, but organisations like Sex Matters are trying to say it applies much more widely, such as to toilets. I can think of no good reason to ban female people from female toilets based on their appearance. It appears to undermine the clarification that sex means biological sex only.

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TicklishLemur · 01/05/2025 18:33

Helleofabore · 30/04/2025 20:44

I remember the accusations about Montoya at the time. I remember also hearing from Benji from Canada when she first detransitioned that she told the story of the 'transgender youth group' that was very small with just some teenaged female people and adult male people (ie transwomen) as 'leaders'. She was very clear that those male people preyed on the teenaged female people who had declared they were 'transmen'.

She told the world that these male people had sex with all the teenagers. These were very vulnerable teenaged girls and they were groomed.

Where is the safeguarding? Why are underage children who are already particularly vulnerable being mixed in with adult men? It's a disgrace.

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AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 01/05/2025 00:45

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 01/05/2025 00:28

I forgot, who were the couple where he'd put some nasty pictures online of him forcing his fist into her mouth, I think he had bitten her face too?

It's not really a big surprise given the different profiles, ages and power differentials between the men and the women/girls, the sexual motivations of many of the men involved and high rate of sexual offending - and the fact that so many of the men calling themselves women seem to really, really loathe actual women...

You're thinking of Grace Lavery

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 01/05/2025 00:28

I forgot, who were the couple where he'd put some nasty pictures online of him forcing his fist into her mouth, I think he had bitten her face too?

It's not really a big surprise given the different profiles, ages and power differentials between the men and the women/girls, the sexual motivations of many of the men involved and high rate of sexual offending - and the fact that so many of the men calling themselves women seem to really, really loathe actual women...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/05/2025 00:21

What Tallisker said.

Tallisker · 30/04/2025 21:32

If only the Be Kinders would realise this movement is mostly about sex. Men getting their rocks off in multiple different ways.

ArabellaScott · 30/04/2025 21:27

INeedAPensieve · 30/04/2025 21:06

That's absolutely awful. I didn't realise that. I've had a quick search online and I think I know who that transwoman is you mean. I already knew he was not a nice person anyway due to other things he'd done (with photographic evidence). Hmmm. Horrible that's happened and he's not been held accountable.

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I'll pm you.