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How to use email signature to push back against "preferred pronouns"?

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Albless · 29/04/2025 15:37

I'm a member of the clergy and I've noticed other clergy and admin staff increasingly have pronouns in brackets after their names in email signatures. The woman who manages my denomination's EDI team also has a clicky link explaining why the pronouns are there. The link takes you to a page of vagueness and mealy-mouthed nonsense.

I'd like to include an alternative in my own signature. So far I've just gone with a couple of lines saying that some in this denomination have pronouns in their signature, but I prefer Woman: adult human female. This seems a bit clunky though, and lacking in information for those for whom this is somehow new.

Any ideas on wording, and also an easy to understand webpage pushing back against pronouns which also gives people the chance to access more information.

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SuziQuinto · 29/04/2025 22:44

I have refused, and leave it blank. I think it's utterly ridiculous. I keep getting "reminded", and everyone else seems to have done so, but I won't.
I was tempted to write "hag/crone"

PrettyParrot · 29/04/2025 22:37

I wrote 'No preferred pronouns' in the DEI box at my workplace. People get strangely perturbed when I assure them that I have no preference 😂

Hollyhedge · 29/04/2025 22:33

Just ignore their pronouns, It’s getting petty

Hamabeed · 29/04/2025 22:31

When the pronouns on email signature thing first came in a few years ago at my workplace (an incredibly captured charity) my brilliant boss at the time said she wouldn’t be putting hers up and she would take her chances being misgendered.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 29/04/2025 22:25

Nomoreidea · 29/04/2025 21:45

You don't need to make it clear that you're female though, if your name is more unisex. They don't need to know.

Well no she obviously doesn’t have to, but if @DuchessofReality had a unisex name but wanted to make it clear she was a woman, then writing (Ms) after her name would be the way to do it. I don’t like it much because the styling comes from the days where women were expected to clarify their marital status, but if you fear being mistaken for a bloke, it does the job.

UtterlyOtterly · 29/04/2025 22:24

Someone I know, who is known for not suffering fools, uses "XX chromosomes" when she feels the need.

minnienono · 29/04/2025 22:22

I wouldn’t put any pronouns in a clergy email signature, just encourages the anti women lot. I have a female boss (clergy) and refer as revered xxxx (surname) to be professional unless I know the person calling because some people ask can they speak to a man instead!

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 29/04/2025 22:21

Just don’t use pronouns in your email signature, there’s no need to turn it into a soapbox

SwordOfOmens · 29/04/2025 22:17

"I don't feel comfortable being forced to choose a gender."

PerkyBlinder · 29/04/2025 22:14

It’s particularly alienating for clergy to put pronouns in their signature. Given your identity as a Christian is in Christ and it’s a life where you strive to live a life like Jesus being selfless and serving others. It signals to me a belief system above God and I would leave a church if the clergy had pronouns.

Interestingly the church with the biggest growth in younger people is the Catholic Church - I really don’t think it’s a good idea for the CofE church to embrace a different belief system to God created man and woman and he saw that his creation was good.

For yours I’d just leave them off but I’d have to engage in some way with the people who had them as I think it’s that bad in the church as it’s so counter to the teachings. We should love everyone where they’re at and humans are not perfect but the clergy should also lead by example and pronouns doesn’t do that. :(

HePlayin · 29/04/2025 22:04

I’ve ignored the pronoun requests since our company requested we add them to our email since 2016.

I’ve just ignored every request and not done it. One of my AGMs has ignored it too.

I’ll wait to see what their next approach is. In the meantime I’m just not adding them. There is a transgender person in my team and they’ve never asked me why not. I’m so far just keeping quiet.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 29/04/2025 21:59

Everyone in my workplace other than me has pronouns in their signature. Never had a conversation about it - I just don't do it.

SaulHudsonDavidJones · 29/04/2025 21:54

I feel saying nothing is saying a lot. Leave it blank and show you won’t engage in this nonsense. Treat it like it doesn’t exist and that will help normalise it not being there.

Nomoreidea · 29/04/2025 21:45

DuchessofReality · 29/04/2025 19:56

In your place the most I would put it is to put (Mr) or (Ms) or whatever your title is if it makes it clear what sex you are. Rev Dr (which you might be?) clearly wouldn't help though.

Question to everyone else - if I put Sam Jones (Ms) then I hope it shows that although my name could be used by either sex, I am female but don't want to join in this she/her nonsense. Do you agree?

If on the other hand my name was Felicity Smith or Kevin Black, I don't think it would work so well as the name makes it obvious and in that case the title may be seen as exactly the same as the virtue signalling she/her.

You don't need to make it clear that you're female though, if your name is more unisex. They don't need to know.

Mermoose · 29/04/2025 21:44

It's enough not to include your pronouns. Albless I feel very strongly about the harm done by gender identity ideology. But, we need to stop politicising every aspect of our lives. There will be people who disagree with you on this for various reasons, some of them may agree with you in the future and they're just not there yet. But in the meantime, they're people who you probably have a lot in common with, and depending on your position, maybe they'll need your help as a member of the clergy. If it comes up, it comes up and you can address it then.

IhateMondaymornings · 29/04/2025 21:15

I have not included pronouns and I respect people who don’t more than those that have. Some people I know have put her/she/they/them. I don’t know what that is all about! I also notice who has added pronouns and take a mental note and will await when they are deleted, which no doubt, one day they will be! I have noticed more women than men have used them.

Beebop2025 · 29/04/2025 21:03

I don’t add mine. I feel like I’m the only
one without them. I was at a meeting and we introduced ourselves, people were saying their name and title and then “ my pronouns are - blah blah “ when it got to me I just said my name and title and there was a silence …….. it felt like ages but I’m sure it wasn’t. But after that several other women didn’t use pronouns. I feel people are scared not to use them - it’s fear of being cancelled and it has to stop.

Happyher · 29/04/2025 20:59

Someone once pointed out that you only use pronouns when you’re talking about someone not to them so it’s pointless

Happyher · 29/04/2025 20:57

“My chromosomes are XX”

Ddakji · 29/04/2025 20:53

I really wouldn’t do this. Keep your work email professional and to the point.

I don’t like people who bring their activism into work (which I consider this to be) so I’m not going to do it myself.

Instructions · 29/04/2025 20:52

Just don't use them. It won't be professional to have a counter to it in your signature, just as it isn't bloody professional for them to describe their pronouns in theirs.

SirChenjins · 29/04/2025 20:50

I’ve been tempted to put a sarky pronouns: I, me, mine, but decided that I wouldn’t stoop to their level. Instead I have insisted on a standard signature template for my team - and make a mental note of the people who use them and file under ‘idiot’.

KnottyAuty · 29/04/2025 20:46

I agree with not having them.
The vast majority of people won’t notice the omission.
My email footer at work has my name and post nominate, then my company name & address.

Merrymouse · 29/04/2025 20:33

heffalumpwoozle · 29/04/2025 17:37

You don't need to use your work email signature to make a political statement.

If you don't want to include pronouns then just don't.

Agree.