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Wetherspoons on the SC Ruling

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MyKingdomforaNameChange · 28/04/2025 07:42

Don't know if this has been posted yet, sorry if it has - but thought it was interesting!

Wetherspoons on the SC Ruling
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RoastOrMash · 14/05/2025 07:18

Etaerio · 14/05/2025 07:17

No, they would need to show that they suffered serious financial loss. The bar is rightly set high for companies bringing defamation cases against individuals.

Ah ok, thank you! 👍

Etaerio · 14/05/2025 07:17

RoastOrMash · 14/05/2025 06:18

I wonder if W/spoons have a defamation case against whoever first circulated the message. There must have been reputational damage from people thinking they wouldn’t comply with SC?

Glad they have clarified they will - still waiting for my employer and local sports centre to do so!

No, they would need to show that they suffered serious financial loss. The bar is rightly set high for companies bringing defamation cases against individuals.

RoastOrMash · 14/05/2025 06:18

I wonder if W/spoons have a defamation case against whoever first circulated the message. There must have been reputational damage from people thinking they wouldn’t comply with SC?

Glad they have clarified they will - still waiting for my employer and local sports centre to do so!

Kinsters · 14/05/2025 04:35

SabrinaThwaite · 13/05/2025 19:31

The person responsible for circulating the screenshot made out that it was a response to an email after the SC ruling but before the EHRC guidance. Even included ‘screenshots’ of the email.

Now it turns out it was from July 2024 and somebody has been telling giant porkies.

Colour me shocked.

Edited

Wow! This is why there's really no point engaging as individuals. As Peter Daly said, you can't lie or not answer the question in court so that is where it will be worked out.

Against my better judgement I did engage on Reddit the other day. I shared the transwomen sex offenders in prison statistics and was told I was wrong and that that figure is actually trans women who have been involved in rape ie as the victim rather than the perpetrator 😵‍💫

SabrinaThwaite · 13/05/2025 19:31

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/05/2025 18:38

Well I’m shocked that a TRA would entirely misrepresent their conversation as taking place after the SC ruling rather than before. It’s almost as if lying is their default position

The person responsible for circulating the screenshot made out that it was a response to an email after the SC ruling but before the EHRC guidance. Even included ‘screenshots’ of the email.

Now it turns out it was from July 2024 and somebody has been telling giant porkies.

Colour me shocked.

Etaerio · 13/05/2025 19:08

RipleyJones · 28/04/2025 07:59

Well that is embarrassing for them. How to announce to the world you’re stupid without announcing to the world you’re stupid.

Oh dear! Did you fail to check the accuracy of what you were pontificating about? How embarrassing!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/05/2025 18:38

Well I’m shocked that a TRA would entirely misrepresent their conversation as taking place after the SC ruling rather than before. It’s almost as if lying is their default position

Etaerio · 13/05/2025 18:31

SerendipityJane · 13/05/2025 18:23

Notice how the disabled facilities have been co opted into this solution. Presumably that's where baby transport systems get parked too, once you get all those wheelchairs out.

Not "disabled facilities". Accessible. Because that's what they are. Not the room that disabled people are obliged to use.

SerendipityJane · 13/05/2025 18:23

Maaate · 13/05/2025 18:17

So apparently the screenshot was from a question asked prior to the SC judgement and Spoons will be complying with the law...

https://x.com/LottieTredgett/status/1922221332529299884?t=69kM5UuZgnvk58ujW3-WpA&s=19

Notice how the disabled facilities have been co opted into this solution. Presumably that's where baby transport systems get parked too, once you get all those wheelchairs out.

Maaate · 13/05/2025 18:17

So apparently the screenshot was from a question asked prior to the SC judgement and Spoons will be complying with the law...

https://x.com/LottieTredgett/status/1922221332529299884?t=69kM5UuZgnvk58ujW3-WpA&s=19

Wetherspoons on the SC Ruling
CowboyJoanna · 30/04/2025 16:31

MyKingdomforaNameChange · 28/04/2025 07:42

Don't know if this has been posted yet, sorry if it has - but thought it was interesting!

Well I'm never eating there again Angry

queenofthesuburbs · 30/04/2025 15:48

AngelinaFibres · 28/04/2025 08:26

Yes Tim was Brexit and no dogs and we loved his pubs. Surprised he thinks men are women

Yes you would have thought the reverse were true

Datun · 30/04/2025 15:20

330ml · 30/04/2025 14:46

Why isn't it deemed a crime?

Retrospectively?

Voyeurism is a crime.

With the Supreme Court ruling in this country, they have clarified men are not allowed to women spaces. The fact they've been doing it doesn't make it right.

I'm not sure about the US law though. But listening to the women who had to get changed with Lia Thomas, and how he walked around naked, and looked at them?

Sounds like voyeurism to me.

330ml · 30/04/2025 14:46

Why isn't it deemed a crime?

Retrospectively?

Datun · 30/04/2025 14:02

The Department of Education gave Penn 10 days to wipe out Thomas’ records. The school also was ordered to ban transgender athletes from women’s teams and issue apology letters to female athletes whose “educational experience in athletics (was) marred by sex discrimination.”

Finally.

although I don't think an apology is enough. The women should get compensation. They had to put up with a man ogling them in the changing room and taking their medals.

Why isn't it deemed a crime?

SerendipityJane · 30/04/2025 13:27

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/04/2025 12:42

It's easy to unpick their "logic." If it's dangerous for transwomen to use male toilets why is it not dangerous for males to enter female toilets and other single sex spaces?

logic and religion don't mix.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 30/04/2025 12:54

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/04/2025 12:42

It's easy to unpick their "logic." If it's dangerous for transwomen to use male toilets why is it not dangerous for males to enter female toilets and other single sex spaces?

Ah well, that would be because TWAW, doncha know. As feeble and as vulnerable as the non T variety.

Or some such.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/04/2025 12:42

It's easy to unpick their "logic." If it's dangerous for transwomen to use male toilets why is it not dangerous for males to enter female toilets and other single sex spaces?

SerendipityJane · 30/04/2025 12:23

StellaAndCrow · 30/04/2025 09:30

Absolutely this! I'm most fucked off that so much thought/money is being put into toilets etc for entitled people, before even considering disabled access, and toilet provision like Changing Places for people that need help/support.

Really shows what a Men's Sexual Rights movement can do.

There is no way to draw up a pick list of qualities in the UK that doesn't have "physically disabled" at the bottom.

Keen observers will notice that the lions share of attention for the disabled focuses on the non physical aspects.

This is a real conversation from this year (2025)
"Have you got a ramp ?"
"No, but we have a lanyard scheme, will that help ?"

I note that the sainted Kemi has suggested disabled facilities are now to be used for trans folk. She can really go fuck herself.

StellaAndCrow · 30/04/2025 09:30

SerendipityJane · 29/04/2025 09:57

Of course, if companies rush to spend money on facilities for this ruling, it's merely another kick in the teeth for the disabled who have been told for years that it's "unreasonable" to facilitate access to some buildings. But as we all know, nobody cares, so that's alright.

Absolutely this! I'm most fucked off that so much thought/money is being put into toilets etc for entitled people, before even considering disabled access, and toilet provision like Changing Places for people that need help/support.

Really shows what a Men's Sexual Rights movement can do.

Etaerio · 30/04/2025 06:36

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 28/04/2025 10:36

lmao that’s rich coming from them not tolerating discrimination. Brexit wasn’t that long ago.

Erm ... it was Remain that wanted unlimited immigration from White-majority European countries but restrictions on immigration from Black-majority countries. Shocking how many people supported racist policies when they were told they were on the right side of history.

GreenFriedTomato · 30/04/2025 04:03

I have. Someone at work (and it was only female staff on nights) used to always leave a massive poo in the bowl for the next person entering, and stained toilet paper on the floor next to the bin.
And then nightclub toilets full of poo and vomit up the walls. The latter was likely due to alcohol though. I find most public toilets clean(ish) but I have come across some horrors.
Edit: the fact that the staff member was a nurse made it worse and I really hope she was at least washing her hands afterwards.

Grammarnut · 29/04/2025 16:03

Mumble12 · 29/04/2025 09:24

Is that funny?

I’m glad you’ve had perfect public loo experiences, but that has no effect on mine 🤷

I have never met another woman who has found women's lavatories in the state you suggest.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/04/2025 10:15

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/04/2025 09:26

However many times you circle round this issue, it always comes back to the fact that letting people falsify their legal documents is stupid.

This.

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