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JKR's irony meter has exploded - so will yours

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/04/2025 18:03

Dawn Butler, what a card, eh? (Give the image a moment to get through the screening - it show's JKR's response, which is perfect, as usual.)

DB has tweeted:
Currently, anyone can call themselves a nurse. There's been some very worrying cases of people impersonating nurses. We must stop it. My Bill will legally protect the title “nurse”, ensuring only Registered Nurses can use it. #ProtectNurse

Read the room!

JKR's irony meter has exploded - so will yours
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TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2025 20:50

CarefulN0w · 27/04/2025 20:48

I’m wholeheartedly behind protecting the title of nurse. I just wish it wasn’t being championed by DB. But I think we can all agree that people shouldn’t be allowed to pretend to be something they are not, whether it’s down to a lack of qualifications or the wrong chromosomes.

I FOUND ONE! BURN HER!

CarefulN0w · 27/04/2025 20:48

I’m wholeheartedly behind protecting the title of nurse. I just wish it wasn’t being championed by DB. But I think we can all agree that people shouldn’t be allowed to pretend to be something they are not, whether it’s down to a lack of qualifications or the wrong chromosomes.

TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2025 20:48

Incidentally, I think it's now beyond doubt that Dawn Butler is secretly one of us.

She jumped the shark on this one, I fear.

TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2025 20:47

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 18:23

but what if they identify as nurses??

surely dawn doesn’t want to gate keep who can be a nurse?

what if they have been living as a nurse for 2 years?

I believe science has moved on and you no longer need to have trained as a nurse to be a nurse! What about internurses???

There are days on which the only thing that keeps me from exploding from the sense of sheer injustice and knuckle-dragging stupidity are posts like this which laugh me out of my despair!

Cheers.

I'm off to finish the last of the Creme Speggs to cheer myself up.

LizzieSiddal · 27/04/2025 20:46

DB really is so incredibly dense. It’s quite scary actually.

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2025 20:39

Although it's in other threads, here is this other Dawn Butler gem, again just in case any of you missed it:

DB said the other day on telly that she has a butch lesbian friend who gets hounded out of women's toilets and DB and her friends have to actually accompany this poor women to the toilets to protect her!

Sadly, the interviewer didn't ask - 'And is this butch lesbian friend in the room with us now?'

Butch lesbians and 6 foot bearded transmen are this year's Spring/Summer must-have accessories, apparently.

I'm concerned, because I don't think there are enough of them to go around all the politicians and celebrities who want them as friends so they can talk in quivering voices about their suffering at the hands of aggressive straight women in toilets and transphobes at the UK Supreme Court.😒

Silversixpenny · 27/04/2025 20:38

Caaarrrl · 27/04/2025 20:22

I'm a primary school teacher who often suggests a wet paper towel for the children. Surely that makes me a nurse? Not a trans nurse, but a real nurse. I can nurse better than the cis nurses anyway because ... reasons. I've done done this for longer than 2 years.

You are THE nurse with your wet paper towel magic!!

GraduationDay · 27/04/2025 20:22

Scientists have shown that clownfish become actual nurse clownfish at will. Therefore, humans become actual nurse humans at will too. They don’t even need a certificate. It’s just science. Why argue with science?

Caaarrrl · 27/04/2025 20:22

I'm a primary school teacher who often suggests a wet paper towel for the children. Surely that makes me a nurse? Not a trans nurse, but a real nurse. I can nurse better than the cis nurses anyway because ... reasons. I've done done this for longer than 2 years.

AngelinaFibres · 27/04/2025 19:08

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 18:23

but what if they identify as nurses??

surely dawn doesn’t want to gate keep who can be a nurse?

what if they have been living as a nurse for 2 years?

I believe science has moved on and you no longer need to have trained as a nurse to be a nurse! What about internurses???

What if they feel they were born with a 'nurses brain'.

What if they feel they are a nurse.Surely they must be allowed to be true to that true self.
Oh will no one listen to the pretend ( trans if you will) nurses.

CarpeVitam · 27/04/2025 19:03

Pmsl! 🤪 and

NitroNine · 27/04/2025 18:41

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/04/2025 18:14

I haven't. I've called her JKR. I wouldn't call her Joanne or Jo as (I am very old) to me that would imply that I know her personally, which I don't. If I wanted to refer to her a bit more formally, I'd say J. K. Rowling, I suppose.

Ms Rowling has also commented that TRAs are wont to address her as “Joanne” when giving out to her eg as in this reply of hers on TwiX.
(Text of JKR’s reply [1125 11/05/24]: Joanne, Joanne, Joanne, let me explain, Joanne, what your books mean, Joanne, because, Joanne, here’s a Joanne quote that means men, Joanne, can be women, Joanne, and I hope, Joanne, you realise, Joanne, how very Joanne wrong, Joanne, you are, Joanne, and also Jo.)

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1789240498000904693?s=46

LonginesPrime · 27/04/2025 18:37

TeenToTwenties · 27/04/2025 18:05

I don't know what's real any more.

That’s what I was thinking - it really does beggar belief that DB can’t see it at all.

SternJoyousBee · 27/04/2025 18:37

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/04/2025 18:12

Lest we forget, five years ago Dawn Butler went on Good Morning Britain and this claims to be a transcript of what happened:

Presenter Richard Madeley accused the Labour Party of shutting down debate about sex and gender, after two leadership candidates backed calls to expel from the party anyone who questions transgender ideology.
Miss Butler was also asked if people are ‘transphobic’ if they believe there is a biological difference between men who say they are women even if they have not had surgery, and true females.
She said: “What we can’t have is transphobia, we can’t have people who are transphobic.”
She added: “If you’re saying that a trans woman isn’t a woman, then there are issues around that. Talking about penises and vaginas doesn’t help the conversation because then you’re saying that a trans woman isn’t a woman.”
Biological differences
When Madeley asked: “When a child is born, they are identified and observed in a particular sex aren’t they?”, Butler interjected: “A child is born without sex, a child is formed without sex in the beginning”.
She concluded by stating the trans activist slogan, “Trans women are women. Trans men are men”, and suggested that those who don’t agree are making trans people unsafe and contributing to hate crime.

UPDATE – In a later interview with homosexual news website Pink News Butler sought to clarify her remarks.
She said: “The thing is, when you are born, you’re told by the doctor, ‘Congratulations, it’s a boy’ or ‘Congratulations, it’s a girl.’ But I was trying to make the point to him that, you know, it’s also not a given. There’s lots of people that identify as non binary.”

https://www.christian.org.uk/news/dawn-butler-mp-babies-are-born-without-biological-sex/ (Disclaimer: I'm not a Christian but I remember the discussion here at the time, and I would say this is in accordance with what I remember.]

comparing her to mince is an insult to mince

EasternStandard · 27/04/2025 18:35

Ha that is good

Winterwonders24 · 27/04/2025 18:34

Fingernailbiter · 27/04/2025 18:24

I’m hoping she will tackle India Willoughby about the latter recently putting "biological woman" in Twitter/X bio. IW also said recently, among other ludicrous things, that IW is pretty sure that if they did a cheek swab it would come out "female".

Deluded or what? I don’t think IW has heard of chromosomes.

IW does remember he fathered children, right? 🫣🤫🤔

Conxis · 27/04/2025 18:31

I feel, come the next elections, we need those billboards of bonkers quotes. Like the men of Led by Donkeys did with Brexit.
I think they also projected past quotes onto buildings

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 27/04/2025 18:30

Lots of people nurse children, or elderly people. Why shouldn't they call themselves Nurses? This is all so exclusive. And it isn't possible to define "nurse". Or if it is, we don't need to worry about about context, do we? Transnurses are nurses. Or something.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/04/2025 18:26

Fingernailbiter · 27/04/2025 18:24

I’m hoping she will tackle India Willoughby about the latter recently putting "biological woman" in Twitter/X bio. IW also said recently, among other ludicrous things, that IW is pretty sure that if they did a cheek swab it would come out "female".

Deluded or what? I don’t think IW has heard of chromosomes.

Good grief.

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Fingernailbiter · 27/04/2025 18:24

I’m hoping she will tackle India Willoughby about the latter recently putting "biological woman" in Twitter/X bio. IW also said recently, among other ludicrous things, that IW is pretty sure that if they did a cheek swab it would come out "female".

Deluded or what? I don’t think IW has heard of chromosomes.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 18:23

but what if they identify as nurses??

surely dawn doesn’t want to gate keep who can be a nurse?

what if they have been living as a nurse for 2 years?

I believe science has moved on and you no longer need to have trained as a nurse to be a nurse! What about internurses???

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/04/2025 18:20

Perish the thought! Hmm

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HaddyAbrams · 27/04/2025 18:20

CatrionasWhiskers · 27/04/2025 18:11

Why call her JK? Her name is Joanne

She uses J.K on her books and social media, so I assume she doesn't mind being called J.K. Confused

Lottapianos · 27/04/2025 18:19

Honestly, it's enough to make you think that MPs don't give a fig about anything at all, just jump on whatever trendy bandwagon happens to be passing through that week 🙄

Rightsraptor · 27/04/2025 18:18

Jo could be Jo Phoenix or Jo Bartosch. Or maybe any number of wonderful women called Jo.

Why is Martin Luther King referred to as MLK?

It's easy and defining.