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‘Rights can be knocked out in a second’: older transwomen shocked by SC ruling

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RethinkingLife · 27/04/2025 10:17

People may recognise the photograph and name of Christine Burns (Press for Change).

https://gendercriticalwoman.blog/category/christine-burns/

Christine Burns, a retired activist and internationally recognised health adviser, charts “a fairly straight line of progress” towards the passing of the Gender Recognition Act in 2004, which allowed trans people to change gender on their birth certificate, marry to reflect their chosen identity and gave them privacy around their transition. That legislation “mattered so much to people” says Burns, while acknowledging that only a minority of the community have gone on to apply for a GRC.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/apr/27/older-trans-women-shocked-by-supreme-court-ruling

The usual hyperbole with feeling “their safety and security has suddenly been removed”. Whittle features, of course. As does Roz Kaveney who neutrally would say to young people: “”don’t be scared, just be prepared to fight for your lives”.

‘Rights can be knocked out in a second’: older trans women shocked by supreme court ruling

Women who transitioned decades ago feel their safety and security has suddenly been removed

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/apr/27/older-trans-women-shocked-by-supreme-court-ruling

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TheOtherRaven · 27/04/2025 11:08

Rights can be knocked out in a second....

or if you're women, men can just steam roll over them even though they exist in law and take bloody YEARS to force the establishment to admit to them.

They weren't rights. They were a land grab.

Haulage · 27/04/2025 11:06

RethinkingLife · 27/04/2025 10:39

It was a rather blatant open goal.
My recollections of Whittle’s visits MN and solidarity with women don’t chime with this retconned fantasy of solidarity.

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Saw this on FB the other day from 1977, not much solidarity with women although the hyperbolic victimhood is familiar.

‘Rights can be knocked out in a second’: older transwomen shocked by SC ruling
SerendipityJane · 27/04/2025 11:05

You can't buy rights with a dud cheque (se4e also: Brexit).

And the only rights that will be diminished here are the rights of the disabled, as all this "3rd 4th space" bollocks (a word I deliberately chose to use) slowly removes the pathetic few facilities that were won on the bloody stumps of heroes.

Remember how the moment wheelchair spaces on buses became a mandatory provision, the travel system brigade rocked up and nicked them ?

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RethinkingLife · 27/04/2025 10:59

I recommend Tish’s (Gender Critical Woman) blog for information about most of the main characters in that piece.

It will be quite eye-opening about the disingenuous way in which they’re presenting themselves and their actions.

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NecessaryScene · 27/04/2025 10:59

Burns might have been able to exercise his unearned privileges much longer had he maintained significant gatekeeping, rather than going for the whole "don't challenge any men ever" thing.

The point being that he never actually had the right to women's spaces, but the lie "a GRC lets me into women's spaces, and GRCs are really hard to get" would have been far more sustainable than the lie they promulgated - "the EA lets any man who wants into women's spaces".

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 10:54

Oh quelle surprise thd guardian with the first of I’ve no doubt many transperbolic hand wringing emotionally blackmailing articles

I would have thought being so womanly Christine would be totally down with all the feelings of fear and having to second guess tnings all the time. That’s what women have been having to do for ever

oh and those “rights” were never your rights, you just took them without asking because ‘meh just women’

NecessaryScene · 27/04/2025 10:41

That legislation “mattered so much to people” says Burns, while acknowledging that only a minority of the community have gone on to apply for a GRC.

The irony being that the TRAs themselves fought against the GRC mattering They're the ones who tried to make sure that all women's things should be open to every male, regardless of GRC - as well as trying to make GRCs easier to get. Double failure.

Burns might have been able to exercise his unearned privileges much longer had he maintained significant gatekeeping, rather than going for the whole "don't challenge any men ever" thing.

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RethinkingLife · 27/04/2025 10:39

NecessaryScene · 27/04/2025 10:36

And any trans person will tell you they have a lifetime’s experience of sexual assault and rape.

That could have been phrased better.

It was a rather blatant open goal.
My recollections of Whittle’s visits MN and solidarity with women don’t chime with this retconned fantasy of solidarity.

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NecessaryScene · 27/04/2025 10:36

And any trans person will tell you they have a lifetime’s experience of sexual assault and rape.

That could have been phrased better.

Lentilweaver · 27/04/2025 10:35

I really hope the press wakes up and frames the issue correctly.

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RethinkingLife · 27/04/2025 10:35

Hasn’t the Guardian managed to frame them, by word and photograph, as harmless grandparent types.

Masterful in its own way.

Remarkable claim by Whttle that is completely at odds with recent rhetoric.

Whittle likewise recalls the trans community’s solidarity with women in previous decades. “We’ve always been respectful of women’s rights. In the 80s and 90s we were out on the streets along with them and they were alongside us in this fight. And any trans person will tell you they have a lifetime’s experience of sexual assault and rape. Do [gender critical groups] not think we care about those issues?”

I would say that your care for this has, notably, been invisible. Particularly wrt ERCC and in general.

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Lentilweaver · 27/04/2025 10:30

So much hyperbole. Sick of it now.

KilkennyCats · 27/04/2025 10:22

No “rights” have been removed from trans people.
They’ve been told they can’t continue to steal women’s rights.
Tough.

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