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The Met Police and the threatening signs

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ArabellaScott · 25/04/2025 12:26

Looks like both the Policing Minister and Junior Minister are not happy about the Met claiming there were no threatening signs at last weekends' protests.

'Officers from the London force told Dame Diana Johnson, the policing minister, that no threatening signs were on display at Saturday’s demonstration in Parliament Square. This led her to insist in interviews that there was no evidence the law had been broken.
In fact, several were visible, including two with hangmen and slogans such as “the only good terf is a ---- one”, implying gender-critical feminists should die.
Another urged opponents to perform a “DIY lobotomy” on themselves, while one appeared to show bullet holes alongside the message: “I will make you listen.”

Chris Philp, the shadow policing minister, described the Met’s “misleading” briefing as “deeply alarming” and added that any suggestion of unequal treatment of protesters risked fuelling accusations of “two-tier policing.”
He said: “It is deeply alarming that the Met Police provided misleading information both to the Government and journalists. The Police are quick to jump on certain protesters, they should be just as vigilant about these ones, or we risk two-tier policing.
“Threats of violence towards women by pro-trans protesters are completely unacceptable, and the perpetrators should be identified and prosecuted.”'

As is widely known, Jo Grady of the UCU shared a picture of one of the 'hangman' signs herself on X.

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ArabellaScott · 25/04/2025 17:44

ArabellaScott · 25/04/2025 17:41

Yes. They see.women as lesser value. Any man who would demean himself by emulating a woman must be deserving of pity.

I mean this is part of the thrill for some men. Abasing themselves by pretending to be a woman. See 'sissification' and humiliation fetish.

Consider why it's not considered demeaning for a woman to pretend to be a man.

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peanutbuttertoasty · 25/04/2025 17:42

Bloody hell! It’s all so depressing

ArabellaScott · 25/04/2025 17:41

OuterSpaceCadet · 25/04/2025 16:27

When authorities and institutions side with transwomen it is simply because they recognise them as men. And our authorities and institutions continue to be patriarchal.

Perhaps a bit of pity chucked in (how shameful it must be to be a man and wear a skirt) and oh look you're only two steps away from sissy porn and autogyaephilia.

Yes. They see.women as lesser value. Any man who would demean himself by emulating a woman must be deserving of pity.

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Brefugee · 25/04/2025 16:44

I am baffled by the "well the signs are old from other times"

so fucking what? that just makes it worse, they've been ignoring the threats for ages.

WhereYouLeftIt · 25/04/2025 16:28

ginasevern · 25/04/2025 13:34

But why do the police side with transwomen? I know the police are a complete fucking mess of sexism, misogyny, homophobia and christ knows what else, but you wouldn't think they'd have any more sympathy (or connection, or whatever) with men wanting to be women than they have with actual women. I don't get it.

Proof positive that they KNOW tranwomen are not women. They know they're men, and therefore side with them.

OuterSpaceCadet · 25/04/2025 16:27

When authorities and institutions side with transwomen it is simply because they recognise them as men. And our authorities and institutions continue to be patriarchal.

Perhaps a bit of pity chucked in (how shameful it must be to be a man and wear a skirt) and oh look you're only two steps away from sissy porn and autogyaephilia.

WhereYouLeftIt · 25/04/2025 16:25

ArabellaScott · 25/04/2025 12:28

https://archive.ph/e6LD6

Here you go.

mardirousse · 25/04/2025 15:44

ginasevern · 25/04/2025 13:34

But why do the police side with transwomen? I know the police are a complete fucking mess of sexism, misogyny, homophobia and christ knows what else, but you wouldn't think they'd have any more sympathy (or connection, or whatever) with men wanting to be women than they have with actual women. I don't get it.

Our enemies' enemies are our friends

EasyTouch · 25/04/2025 15:41

ginasevern · 25/04/2025 13:34

But why do the police side with transwomen? I know the police are a complete fucking mess of sexism, misogyny, homophobia and christ knows what else, but you wouldn't think they'd have any more sympathy (or connection, or whatever) with men wanting to be women than they have with actual women. I don't get it.

The " macho" professions harbour and attract an inordinate amount of "closeted" transwomen.

Lovelyview · 25/04/2025 15:33

ginasevern · 25/04/2025 15:31

OK, I get it now. Such is their misogyny that they will side with anyone who hates women as much as they do. A case of "my enemy's enemy is my friend".

I'm not sure it's that it's just that misogynists instinctively respect males over females however they present themselves.

ginasevern · 25/04/2025 15:31

OK, I get it now. Such is their misogyny that they will side with anyone who hates women as much as they do. A case of "my enemy's enemy is my friend".

Lovelyview · 25/04/2025 15:25

ginasevern · 25/04/2025 15:13

So just the fact that transwomen are basically men then? And yet I'm pretty sure that if they had transwomen colleagues there would be cesspit of bullying and vile jokes against them.

They kept getting women's awards and being asked to give keynote speeches on International women's day. I think a lot of men were delighted to be able to deal with male women.

floormops · 25/04/2025 15:20

ginasevern · 25/04/2025 15:13

So just the fact that transwomen are basically men then? And yet I'm pretty sure that if they had transwomen colleagues there would be cesspit of bullying and vile jokes against them.

I haven't seen that. Every bit of publicity about transwoman colleagues that I have seen seems to be all about how wonderful they are. The TW seem confident and very proud of themselves.

ginasevern · 25/04/2025 15:13

floormops · 25/04/2025 15:01

The misogyny is more important than anything else in the hierarchy of values.

So just the fact that transwomen are basically men then? And yet I'm pretty sure that if they had transwomen colleagues there would be cesspit of bullying and vile jokes against them.

Lovelyview · 25/04/2025 15:08

floormops · 25/04/2025 15:01

The misogyny is more important than anything else in the hierarchy of values.

The fact that people bowed and scraped to these shouty men made me realise just how misogynistic society is.

floormops · 25/04/2025 15:01

ginasevern · 25/04/2025 13:34

But why do the police side with transwomen? I know the police are a complete fucking mess of sexism, misogyny, homophobia and christ knows what else, but you wouldn't think they'd have any more sympathy (or connection, or whatever) with men wanting to be women than they have with actual women. I don't get it.

The misogyny is more important than anything else in the hierarchy of values.

BoreOfWhabylon · 25/04/2025 14:55

Maybe send this video? It's of the latest shenanigans

Also, Aja has a short video compilation of the violence and aggression displayed towards LWS and other events here and abroad. It's on her twitter

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https://youtu.be/CldNDGzsg7Q

ArabellaScott · 25/04/2025 14:45

Oh, look, someone's already done it! At least, up until 2023. There will have been more since.

https://sex-matters.org/about-us/what-we-are-up-against/transactivist-violence-a-timeline/

https://sex-matters.org/about-us/what-we-are-up-against/intimidation-threats-and-violence-by-trans-rights-activists/

I guess we're looking for times the police failed to support women when threatened or attacked by trans activists. I'll go through this later and pull relevant incidents.

Transactivist violence – on film - Sex Matters

Videos and pictures of incidents of intimidation, threats and violence against gender critical women in the UK.

https://sex-matters.org/about-us/what-we-are-up-against/transactivist-violence-a-timeline/

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MixTapeMel · 25/04/2025 14:04

ArabellaScott · 25/04/2025 13:58

I wonder if it's worth writing to Chris Philp, with a list of all of the women's meetings and trans activist threats and aggression over the past few years, and asking him to look into the terrorism of the trans activist movement as a matter of urgency? He is quite correct, this is two tier policing, and has been for a very long time.

https://members.parliament.uk/member/4503/contact

Anyone in Croydon South?

He's Shadow HomeSec, can anyone contact him in that capacity?

If so, I'll try and get a comprehensive list of all the protests where police have failed to protect women in the past few years.

What about directly to Kier Starmer, he is my MP. If you compile a list I will complain.

ArabellaScott · 25/04/2025 13:58

I wonder if it's worth writing to Chris Philp, with a list of all of the women's meetings and trans activist threats and aggression over the past few years, and asking him to look into the terrorism of the trans activist movement as a matter of urgency? He is quite correct, this is two tier policing, and has been for a very long time.

https://members.parliament.uk/member/4503/contact

Anyone in Croydon South?

He's Shadow HomeSec, can anyone contact him in that capacity?

If so, I'll try and get a comprehensive list of all the protests where police have failed to protect women in the past few years.

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ginasevern · 25/04/2025 13:34

But why do the police side with transwomen? I know the police are a complete fucking mess of sexism, misogyny, homophobia and christ knows what else, but you wouldn't think they'd have any more sympathy (or connection, or whatever) with men wanting to be women than they have with actual women. I don't get it.

INeedAPensieve · 25/04/2025 13:26

ArabellaScott · 25/04/2025 13:19

I say this, posting on an anonymous internet forum, on which I've registered with a burner email, for fuck's sake!

It's mad Arabella! Complete madness. I can't believe it's got this far.

I'm also very angry.

BiologicalRobot · 25/04/2025 13:25

Thanks for posting. I will await the police hunting them down with the same enthusiasm they used with the rioters. I will await the courts sentencing them the same as the rioters. Prisons too full? I await Starmer emptying them like he did for the rioters.

I suspect I will wait a very long time.

ArabellaScott · 25/04/2025 13:19

I say this, posting on an anonymous internet forum, on which I've registered with a burner email, for fuck's sake!

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