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Thackray Museum statement on SC ruling

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ThatDaringMintCritic · 24/04/2025 15:51

Saw this statement on LinkedIn. Wonder how many other institutions are going to pipe up saying that their world view trumps the SC. They also reference the not consulted line. Didn't Amnesty Int present the 'trans argument?'

STATEMENT FROM THE THACKRAY MUSEUM OF MEDICINE FOLLOWING THE SUPREME COURT GENDER RULING

April 24, 2025
The Thackray Museum of Medicine is a safe space where the trans community has always been, and will always be, a welcomed part of our family – through our staff, volunteers, co-producers, the communities we share our building with, our visitors, our professional networks and beyond.
We are disappointed with the Supreme Court’s ruling regarding the legal definition of a ‘woman’ as we believe it has further discriminated against and alienated minority communities, and further eroded equality for all people and everyone’s basic human right to be treated equitably.
We stand with our friends at the Vagina Museum who rightly comment on the judgment that: “sex, gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation and other characteristics related to sexual identity exist in various different combinations and their relationship to one another is never clear cut. What is clear to us is that everyone, regardless of their body parts, are deserving of human rights, dignity and the power to identity as they wish to.”
As a museum family, we believe that sex and gender are a spectrum; this a position supported by science. Where people choose to sit on that is their choice and it should be respected. The Thackray is not here to provide authoritative definitions but we are here to provide an open, respectful, safe and inclusive platform for conversation, where trans people are represented in our collection and through our activities.
The trans community have been excluded from consultation around the Supreme Court’s decision which in our eyes has increased ambiguity and not offered clarity. We will not exclude the trans community and our building and our facilities remain open to all. We stand with them in allyship and will continue to embrace and represent minority communities through the lens of medicine, wellbeing and healthcare, so that people can see themselves represented and feel included, to enable a better understanding of each other, and to help shape a better tomorrow for everyone.

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Orangemintcream · 24/04/2025 16:13

I’m speechless. This is a MEDICAL museum.

They known damn well sex is not and never has been a spectrum. Sometimes something goes awry during development leading to DSDs but there are only 2 sexes.

I am embarrassed for them. It’s not that far from me. When I went last I’m sure there was a whole section on birth and medicine. Never once did it mention a male human that had been able to give birth. Funny that as I would expect examples of this on the spectrum they speak of.

TheCatsTongue · 24/04/2025 16:03

Mission accomplished. I have never heard of the museum before, but I have now. I suspect that was the motivation with this statement.

RNApolymerase · 24/04/2025 16:01

tartyflette · 24/04/2025 15:57

Who or what is the Thackray Museum? Is it prestigious?

It's a medical museum in Leeds. Sort of history of medicine, they used to have a re-created Victorian street, hands on stuff for kids that type of thing.

I seem to remember some previous related nonsense with one of their exhibits - will go see if I can find old thread.

Floisme · 24/04/2025 16:01

I believe The Thackray Museum is in Leeds and therefore probably heavily dependent on Leeds City Council for funding? I think that goes a long way towards explaining their attitude and that’s without even touching on their relationship with the Vagina Museum.

Akua Reindorf wrote an excellent response to the ‘we weren’t consulted’ and other such arguments. It’s paywalled but it’s been posted on other threads or someone might have a share token.

theonlyonestillawake · 24/04/2025 16:00

It is a museum about medicine- mainly geared towards GCSE History students that study Medicine Through Time. It's attached to St James's Hospital in Leeds.

ThatDaringMintCritic · 24/04/2025 16:00

tartyflette · 24/04/2025 15:57

Who or what is the Thackray Museum? Is it prestigious?

It says it is the UK's largest independent medical museum. I can't help wondering how some of the big funders will react to statements like this.

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CassieAusten · 24/04/2025 15:59

The trans community have been excluded from consultation around the Supreme Court's decision eh?

It's a judgment on legal principles of interpretation not Eurovision, fuckchops.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/04/2025 15:59

There are so many inaccuracies in that statement it's embarrassing. But as we've repeatedly seen, this ideology encourages organisations to becolown themselves and utter untruths, lies and fantasies.

Not sure what you can do unless you've the energy to point out all the untruths they're spouting.

tartyflette · 24/04/2025 15:57

Who or what is the Thackray Museum? Is it prestigious?

cheezncrackers · 24/04/2025 15:55

Utter bollocks. Sex is not a spectrum - it is binary! How depressing that a supposed science museum is spouting this shit.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 24/04/2025 15:54

Bonkers