Thackray Museum statement on SC ruling

and now all I can think of is "friends! friends! vagina friends!" in the voice of the inbetweeners...

I’m pretty sure that, whilst crustaceans are generally binary sex but with variations where they can be hermaphrodites or change sex in response to environmental factors, human beings are very much a binary sex species.

I’m slightly surprised that crustaceans can be (so badly) conflated with humans, but maybe needs must when you’re flailing around to convince the gullible that humans can change sex.

These people are away with the faeries

SO SAY THE THE CRABS

Ha, I saw that and my first thought was “alive and dead is pretty fucking binary”.

The crab museum! I’m weeping! “If you don’t like trans people just be honest”.

Oh boy, wait until you see what the Crab Museum in Margate came up with.

There are no binaries in nature and biology

Biological sex itself is a spectrum

Somebody let the intern loose on the Insta account.

Neither could the vagina museum, last I heard of them they were advertising to borrow someone’s nans garage to house their exhibits. I’m very much not surprised these clowns are friends of the vagina museum.

a) I don't think anyone has ever suggested or expected a museum should be single sex, have they? Literally 99% of their service will be completely unaffected by the ruling, why bother with all that waffle, just tell people what you're doing about your toilets and carry on as normal....

b)How do you write a sentence starting, "We stand with our friends at the Vagina Museum...." and expect anything else you say to be taken seriously?

It is very touching how these organisations think that the law is somehow optional. Reality is going to be so painful.

"The trans community have been excluded from consultation"

Do they think the Supreme Court use focus groups?

No, that would be very much against the law. I think you would have difficulty coming up with a reason to exclude any group from a museum.

"As a museum family, we believe that sex and gender are a spectrum; this a position supported by science."

It isn't supported by either science or English. They need to look up the meaning of the word 'spectrum'.

Another load of nonsense from somewhere that should know better… it’s like self soothing; they are sticking their fingers in their ears and repeating the script.

They just can’t face reality - there’s something so petulant about it…I can’t help thinking there is a cohort of recent graduates who positioned themselves in the arts, media, charities, marketing departments etc. who were peddling this crap for the last few years unchallenged, and are now faced with some cold hard reality - that they don’t make the law, and are throwing a tantrum.

If their mission was "more bums (of any description) on seats", then no. It's one of those places I always intended to visit, but this has put me right off. My 100% woman-bum will go elsewhere.

School trip discussions will be interesting for them now, then.

“We will not exclude the trans community and our building and our facilities remain open to all.“

I’m no Law Talking Guy but has anyone suggested trans people cannot go to museums because of the SC decision?

I do hope one of their employees is a secret TERF and if they don’t have access to single sex facilities as per the Health and Safety at work act, that they take them to ET

It's a judgment on legal principles of interpretation not Eurovision, fuckchops.

Will this fit on a t-shirt? It's very very funny😂

On a more serious note, there are so many of these 'we stand with our poor marginalised trans brothers and sisters' messages, all of them equally inaccurate and catastrophising, wouldn't it be great to have a standard response in email or even post-card form to send to them?

It would be something along the lines of 'Get a grip, you're embarrassing yourselves'..

"We are disappointed with the Supreme Court’s ruling regarding the legal definition of a ‘woman’ as we believe it has further discriminated against and alienated minority communities, and further eroded equality for all people and everyone’s basic human right to be treated equitably." This is a bit risky for an organisation to put out i would have thought.

'We have not been upholding your rights based on sex, and are unlikely to do so' has a similar meaning. Organisations really haven't understood that because they didn't understand the law, they have been discriminating. And starements about how they wish they could continue disctiminating are not going to help them if they are sued. It certainly suggests an organisation that would be hostile to anyone who thinks it's important to accurately understand that our protected characteristic is based on biological sex, or who thinks sex matters.

The museums journal pilublished an annoying article of museum responses to rhe ruling. I'm not sure this is one of them but there were other similar ones.

I think it fine to say they welcome trans ppl and they are an important part of the museum community or whatever, but they shouldn't be saying they don't agree that women should have rights as a sex, which this does.

I love how they say they are mates with the Vagina museum (whatever this is) in the same statement where they're saying they can't possibly organise spaces by biological sex!

Gosh. The Thackery museum is a medicine museum. You'd think they'd know....

So does this mean they have always had gender neutral toilets and will continue to operate these? If so apart from the disagreeable bluster I do not think it says much apart from it being yet another “captured” institution. If they are saying they will now defy the (clarified) law on single sex spaces then it will be interesting to see what action is taken. For me this battle is by no means over. It is quite possible that many employers and other public bodies simply ignore the ruling and do not comply.

They are going to have to change their tune whether they like it or not.

I've asked them what they mean when the say sex isn't binary.

Either they mean sexual characteristics, which of course aren't binary (and no one is suggesting they are so why make the statement other than to be disingenuous) or they mean sex itself, in which case I'll ask for the scientific proof that a third sex exists, and what the purpose of that third sex is.