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Thackray Museum statement on SC ruling

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ThatDaringMintCritic · 24/04/2025 15:51

Saw this statement on LinkedIn. Wonder how many other institutions are going to pipe up saying that their world view trumps the SC. They also reference the not consulted line. Didn't Amnesty Int present the 'trans argument?'

STATEMENT FROM THE THACKRAY MUSEUM OF MEDICINE FOLLOWING THE SUPREME COURT GENDER RULING

April 24, 2025
The Thackray Museum of Medicine is a safe space where the trans community has always been, and will always be, a welcomed part of our family – through our staff, volunteers, co-producers, the communities we share our building with, our visitors, our professional networks and beyond.
We are disappointed with the Supreme Court’s ruling regarding the legal definition of a ‘woman’ as we believe it has further discriminated against and alienated minority communities, and further eroded equality for all people and everyone’s basic human right to be treated equitably.
We stand with our friends at the Vagina Museum who rightly comment on the judgment that: “sex, gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation and other characteristics related to sexual identity exist in various different combinations and their relationship to one another is never clear cut. What is clear to us is that everyone, regardless of their body parts, are deserving of human rights, dignity and the power to identity as they wish to.”
As a museum family, we believe that sex and gender are a spectrum; this a position supported by science. Where people choose to sit on that is their choice and it should be respected. The Thackray is not here to provide authoritative definitions but we are here to provide an open, respectful, safe and inclusive platform for conversation, where trans people are represented in our collection and through our activities.
The trans community have been excluded from consultation around the Supreme Court’s decision which in our eyes has increased ambiguity and not offered clarity. We will not exclude the trans community and our building and our facilities remain open to all. We stand with them in allyship and will continue to embrace and represent minority communities through the lens of medicine, wellbeing and healthcare, so that people can see themselves represented and feel included, to enable a better understanding of each other, and to help shape a better tomorrow for everyone.

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Kucinghitam · 28/04/2025 15:27

GCITC · 28/04/2025 15:18

Presented without comment.

I think my brain melted and started to trickle out of my ears halfway through reading that load of steaming manure.

PatsFruitCake · 28/04/2025 15:24

Queenage · 25/04/2025 13:34

They are an Arts Council National Portfolio Org and I’m sure that ACE are a little anxious right now about their own funding going forward, last thing they need is for one of their NPO’s to be openly flouting the law.

ACE have put out a surprisingly neutral statement about the Supreme Court judgement. Its probably too much to hope they will expect the organisations they fund to do the same.

GCITC · 28/04/2025 15:18

Presented without comment.

Thackray Museum statement on SC ruling
Queenage · 25/04/2025 13:34

They are an Arts Council National Portfolio Org and I’m sure that ACE are a little anxious right now about their own funding going forward, last thing they need is for one of their NPO’s to be openly flouting the law.

Kucinghitam · 25/04/2025 13:34

DC used to like the Thackray when they were younger. We probably wouldn't be going there now they're late teens, so I suppose it is no loss to the Thackray that I say we shall not be darkening their doors with our insufficiently progressive "science" from now on.

MarieDeGournay · 25/04/2025 13:27

SabrinaThwaite · 25/04/2025 12:22

There’s a penis museum in Iceland apparently.

Seem to remember that the Vagina Museum went very pro trans (and it’s EDI policy still includes ‘gender’ as a protected characteristic).

I'm struggling - no really.... struggling not to recycle the old 'if they can put one man on the moon...' joke.
But oh dear, I lost:

'If they can put one penis in a museum, why can't they put them all there?'

A minority opinion, obviously..Grin

SabrinaThwaite · 25/04/2025 12:22

There’s a penis museum in Iceland apparently.

Seem to remember that the Vagina Museum went very pro trans (and it’s EDI policy still includes ‘gender’ as a protected characteristic).

unsync · 25/04/2025 11:55

There's a Vagina Museum? Why though? Has any one been? Is there a Penis and Scrotum Museum too? Can anyone confirm? I'm not putting any of that into a search engine.

Why do they have a belief in Sex? It is either one or the other. Is the Thackray some sort of gender cult? Is it funded by public money? It really is time for all this utter shite to stop.

OvaHere · 25/04/2025 10:28

FleaDog · 25/04/2025 07:07

Thackray museum had a massive overhaul a few years ago, took out lots of exhibits, skeletons etc and shoved a huge trans section in. Last time we went it was mainly trans items on the upper floor. We'd come to look round a medical museum, not a trans promotion centre.

It was just pointless, really they need to rebrand themselves as what they offer now is nothing like what it offered a few years ago.

A few years ago I visited the Natural History Museum in Oxford that had dedicated a huge room for a TQ exhibition for the season. The whole time I was there I didn't see anyone go into it.

Not to be defeated by this lack of interest from the transphobic public they sneakily inserted some gender woo into a few of the regular exhibits. My favourite being someone's gender support plushie they'd very generously loaned for display.

peanutbuttertoasty · 25/04/2025 10:19

Honestly, I don’t know how they get out of bed in the morning having to face laws of nature that stubbornly refuse to conform to their loony world view.

LonginesPrime · 25/04/2025 10:11

FleaDog · 25/04/2025 07:07

Thackray museum had a massive overhaul a few years ago, took out lots of exhibits, skeletons etc and shoved a huge trans section in. Last time we went it was mainly trans items on the upper floor. We'd come to look round a medical museum, not a trans promotion centre.

It was just pointless, really they need to rebrand themselves as what they offer now is nothing like what it offered a few years ago.

Skeletons are transphobic as they refuse to adapt to a person’s gender identity. They obviously had to go…

Seriously though, if they are that captured by the ideology, I wonder if it became problematic for them to be saying “this is a male skeleton - note the size of the pelvis compared to the female, etc”.

ValerieDoonican · 25/04/2025 10:09

I mean I get it, if you can get someone to amplify the name of your venue for pretty much free, why wouldn't you..After all, who loses ? (--apart that is from trans people who are now faced with a barrage of messages telling them they are now in danger and face threats to their very existence* . Which must be quite stressful I'd have thought?)
*despite the fact that nothing has actually changed except illegal things are more obviously illegal

ValerieDoonican · 25/04/2025 10:05

ApocalipstickNow · 24/04/2025 17:08

“We will not exclude the trans community and our building and our facilities remain open to all.“

I’m no Law Talking Guy but has anyone suggested trans people cannot go to museums because of the SC decision?

Well you know, they won't feel safe unless places explicitly say so. Apparently.

Similarly it is apparently now very dangerous for a trans person to buy a cup of coffee in Bristol. Unless if course they go into one of these very few selected special places that has vowed to - er, uphold equalties legislation and not discriminate against them? 🤔

https://www.bristol247.com/lgbtq/news-lgbtq/multiple-venues-declare-themselves-safe-spaces-trans-people/

Multiple venues declare themselves safe spaces for trans people

Safe Space Bristol say they have been created "out of heartbreak and hope" following the recent Supreme Court ruling

https://www.bristol247.com/lgbtq/news-lgbtq/multiple-venues-declare-themselves-safe-spaces-trans-people/

peanutbuttertoasty · 25/04/2025 10:03

Though perhaps vaginas have been consigned to history so is apt 🫣

peanutbuttertoasty · 25/04/2025 10:02

Can’t help but think the vagina museum should be renamed

peanutbuttertoasty · 25/04/2025 10:01

😂

Those pesky ‘body parts’ getting in the way!

Lunatics, the lot of them

Beowulfa · 25/04/2025 09:51

I really enjoyed the Crab Museum in Margate, so their confident scientific illiteracy is depressing.

HermioneWeasley · 25/04/2025 09:51

I suspected this when they had a whole exhibit on the history of periods and didn’t use thr word “woman” once. It made me so mad! A shame as it’s a really good museum on the history of medicine.

we’ll only know if it’s tested in litigation, but all these organisations declaring themselves disappointed that women and same sex attracted people exist in law and have legal protections, is that not discrimination? If I said I didn’t think that people should be protected against racism, wouldn’t that be a toxic environment?

OvaHere · 25/04/2025 09:46

Loads of schools go on trips to this museum. They should rethink that.

What an unprofessional and petulant statement.

IllustratedDictionaryOfTheDoldrums · 25/04/2025 07:27

DisappearingGirl · 24/04/2025 16:42

I love how they say they are mates with the Vagina museum (whatever this is) in the same statement where they're saying they can't possibly organise spaces by biological sex!

Oh that is hilarious 🤣. How embarrassing for them?

Igneococcus · 25/04/2025 07:09

There are no binaries in nature and biology

Dead - Alive
Pregnant - not pregnant

FleaDog · 25/04/2025 07:07

Thackray museum had a massive overhaul a few years ago, took out lots of exhibits, skeletons etc and shoved a huge trans section in. Last time we went it was mainly trans items on the upper floor. We'd come to look round a medical museum, not a trans promotion centre.

It was just pointless, really they need to rebrand themselves as what they offer now is nothing like what it offered a few years ago.

WhitegreeNcandle · 25/04/2025 06:31

I find this quite scary that a scientific, medical museum thinks it’s ok to to disagree with the law!

ApocalipstickNow · 25/04/2025 06:26

🦀

mr. herbert garrison lobster GIF by South Park