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Searing and excellent from Victoria Smith

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ArabellaScott · 24/04/2025 07:13

Superb article on calls for women to shut up, be kind, and get over it.

Gender ideology is an anti women movement that uses society's deeply entrenched misogyny to further degrade and denigrate women.

Stop telling us to be nice when pointing out abuse.

https://open.substack.com/pub/glosswitch/p/more-heat-more-light

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Olive567 · 26/04/2025 13:44

Its a great piece, thanks for posting

ItisntOver · 26/04/2025 13:10

Just read it again and experienced a surge of justifiable wrath.

Fenlandia · 25/04/2025 17:47

Bumping for anyone who hasn't picked this up amidst everything else going on in FWR. It is a fabulous piece and I have bookmarked it as I want to come back to it again and again. Thank you Victoria.

ItisntOver · 24/04/2025 20:25

ArabellaScott · 24/04/2025 17:21

BRING IT

Battle cry.

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ArabellaScott · 24/04/2025 17:21

TheOtherRaven · 24/04/2025 16:42

Brilliant. Turn up the heat.

BRING IT

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TheOtherRaven · 24/04/2025 16:42

Brilliant. Turn up the heat.

outofdate · 24/04/2025 16:28

💯utterly brilliant. Thank you @ArabellaScott

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/04/2025 14:04

I find the concept of gender identity sexist and fundamentally incompatible with feminism, but understand that for many people, claiming to be the opposite sex is the most comfortable way for them to live their lives. I have no interest in questioning their choices, but think it’s important that feminists are not ordered to go along with a belief system that undermines so many of our beliefs and analyses. I think my own perception of female experience matters and do not wish to describe myself as ‘cis’, let alone own up to ‘cis privilege’, because that contradicts everything I feel and have experienced. Please let women have our stuff (including our one and only political movement), as that’s only fair. The End.

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

user1471471849 · 24/04/2025 13:23

Great! I've been feeling enraged by the whole thing. First massive relief but then anger at the lack of accountability, the gaslighting, the abuse women have suffered and that measly reponse from the government over the issue. And their lack of condemnation (and arrests) for the violent threats on women's lives over the weekend.

Brilliant article.

Missproportionate · 24/04/2025 12:13

Brilliant

MixTapeMel · 24/04/2025 11:52

Brilliant article, thanks for the share. Her book 'Hags' is excellent. She's a very, very articulate and intelligent women (I'll stop fan girling now).

Shes so spot on - "The misogyny – and the utter failure of politicians to condemn it as misogyny that is intrinsic to a misogynistic movement – is terrifying, but it’s hardly a surprise."

persister · 24/04/2025 11:46

I bloody love Victoria Smith. I have never yet read anything she's written on this issue without fervently agreeing. Such a talented writer, and she's outdone herself here.

NDornotND · 24/04/2025 11:41

Absolutely love Victoria's writing and this one is just perfect.... Do we think Lisa Nandy would read it if I sent it to her, or is she a lost cause?

MarieDeGournay · 24/04/2025 11:28

This is an outstanding piece - the combination of complete honesty, self-awareness, deep emotion and reason and logic is powerful.

And very moving - the courage to lay your feelings and experiences out like that deserves so much credit, and so much gratitude from those of us who don't have the same amount of courage that Victoria has.

She is feeling, thinking and speaking all the things that so many of us feel and think but can't, for one reason or another, speak.

Thank you Victoria SmithFlowers

LeavesOnTrees · 24/04/2025 10:56

It's a long but very interesting read.

I really appreciate the honesty she has in analysing her previous works.

To the woman in the comments section who ironed the plumber's shirt - you did the right thing.

Namechange7598 · 24/04/2025 10:28

Love that she has the courage to talk about the elephant/s in the room - porn & fetishism. Men can get totally addled by their addiction to pornography and their sexual fetishes. We all know from the news/court cases that some of them will do anything to fulfil their sexual desires, including literally having their penises nailed to boards and being castrated in garden sheds, yet we are expected to pretend that men want to cross dress in public and get into women’s spaces solely to assuage their sadfeelz and inner ladyness. They talk about their desire to be degraded and explicitly say that this is what makes them female. The misogyny is off the scale.

PriOn1 · 24/04/2025 10:21

Glad to see Rachel Rooney got a mention.

It absolutely is like an abusive relationship, right down to all the flying monkeys on the abusers side telling is how lovely it would be if we could just get back in the fold and behave.

ArabellaScott · 24/04/2025 10:13

People talk about genderism being a cult.

It's more like a systemic abusive relationship.

Lovebombing.

'Love is love', 'love wins', 'trans rights are human rights', rainbows, parades.

Othering. Humiliation.

Creating an antagonist, namely, 'terfs'. 'Transphobes'. Loathing, denigrating, slurs, accusations of bigotry, fascism, 'and probably racist' etc.

Isolation.

The most marginalised, the most hate crimed, the most oppressed. Jeffery Marsh. 'Glitter family'. 'Chosen family'.

Controlling.

'Why pronouns matter'. 'Cis'. 'No debate'.

Threatening.

terfisaslur.com

Manipulation.

'better a trans kid than a dead kid'. The suicide myth.

Gaslighting.

Everything is transphobic. Anyone I don't agree with is Hitler.

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ItisntOver · 24/04/2025 09:58

A classic piece that, back in the days of Virago, would have appeared in a Women’s Studies Reader book (not that I can recall who published those - and I’ve just now thought how beautiful the Virago covers were.

heathspeedwell · 24/04/2025 09:35

Men who identify as women keep issuing death threats and rape threats, but it's women who are bigots for pointing it out.

Taytoface · 24/04/2025 09:26

That is epic. She has felt every bump of this road.

TheaBrandt1 · 24/04/2025 09:25

I went out either a criminal barrister and he was very against “both sides” type thinking. In his experience it’s usually one side being a bastard to the other side.

MoistVonL · 24/04/2025 09:20

After the initial relief and celebration died down, I have to admit to some feelings of absolute rage at the mealy mouthed bastard words of political parties, commentators and the media.

Both Sides, my arse.

heathspeedwell · 24/04/2025 09:13

That is fucking excellent.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 24/04/2025 09:12

Powerful and true.