Get the violins out - Stonewall is "in crisis"

I think it’s pretty unlikely Stonewall would rebrand as a trans charity under its current team anyway. CEO Simon Blake is a gay man with no gender pronouns that I’ve seen out there anyway. Stonewall would need to have a trans CEO etc to be a trans charity and I suspect that the whole thing was more about opportunistically finding new charity income streams for Stonewall. rather than protecting and promoting trans people’s interests.

Because if they’d really cared, for example Stonewall would never have accepted the untested experimentation on young kids that has been going on. Stonewall often talked about ‘trans’ kids. Stonewall never questioned that in general safeguarding suddenly completely melted away for the groups of kids who were called ‘trans’.

Perhaps they can re-purpose as a T group, leave LGBA to deal with the LGB issues and DSD Families to deal with the I issues and the police to deal with the horrors that keep sneaking in under +.

Wholly agree. And at this point, the kids, and the ones 'quietly trying to live their lives' are really not helped in any way by the rent a mob pissing everywhere and threatening to rape and kill everyone.

Any tax payer funded body especially- but also any other charity or business- that has spent good money on being given made up legal advice, or ‘training’ that includes this should be seeking redress too.

well if he does there is PLENTY of material, all very well documented

How do you think any other group has managed to get this though?

It's through grass roots action and hard graft. No one gives it out on a plate.

If trans people need an organisation to support their interests, they need to organise and set one up, not whine that nobody else has handed it to them on a platter.

I'm sorry but I'm all out of fucks to give re the 'most oppressed group ever' narrative.

As pp have said, any useful group or charity would have to define exactly whose interests they are promoting and do do that from within the law and current good practice eg Cass Review. The trouble is, the trans umbrella is now so wide and disparate that the groups it covers have very little in common with each other.

Nick Wallis peaked a few months ago, I sincerely hope he’s planning a post office stylee expose

This is right up Nick Wallis’ street. Stonewall’s ’no debate’ is rather reminiscent of the post office’s attitude.

My employer is still on that list. I hope the whole edifice comes crashing down, and it cannot happen soon enough.

I have been trying to work out who has been giving them legal advice. They have nobody in-house and although plenty of law firms are “Champions” 🙄 none have ponied up any responsibility for the, shall we say, purposive way they have applied the law. (I’m a solicitor and reader of legal feminist so it interests me).

I haven’t seen that list before - it’s unbelievable that so many reputable firms and organisations could have been taken in by all the woo.

You missed po-faced politicians solemnly stating "Lessons will be learnt so that this never happens again."

in time there are going to be many documentaries followed by inquiries followed by reports ...all saying, how did this happen? why did no one speak out? how can we compensate the victims? who shall be punished?

I was thinking the same thing. It’s time for some answers and I hope some journalists take this up and expose how this was allowed.

It’s scary to see that list and how many organisations were influenced by Stonewall. I hope it’s torn down brick by brick and the leadership sued. Terrible how far removed they became from their roots.

I think first they need to define properly the transgender people they are representing. I can definitely see a case to support those who suffer severe dysphoria. This charity would need though to fully support the CASS review and to genuinely work in trans people's best interests rather than in the interests of those who wish to exploit those suffering the dysphoria for their own ends.

There are those who seek to transition minors because they don't like them being gay (see the founder of Mermaids). There are those who seek to transition minors because they have a sexual preference for prepubescent boys (thankfully we have stopped puberty blockers for teenagers). There are those who seek to transition people because they create a lifelong income stream for the drugs and hormone treatments required. Any trans charity is going to need to be acting in a way which only seeks to fully support those with dysphoria even if it means talking therapies (currently Stonewall wants to stop those under the misdirection of calling it conversion therapy when some are dysphoric due to sexual abuse and trauma).

So with all the above in mind, yes there is a space for a charity to support trans people but it's going to have to turn its back on the AGP males and predatory men.

Great post, would recommend.

Stonewall dropped the "I" after lobbying by people with DSDs. The word "Intersex" is not used scientifically any more & those with DSDs find it offensive as they are all either male with a DSD or female with a DSD. Intersex does not exist in humans.

Back in the dark ages when it cared about lesbians I helped fundraise. Now thank God for the LGBA.

I defer to Sgt Major Williams.

And any organisation who pushes for puberty blockers and trans ideology towards children poses a serious safeguarding concern. I haven't seen any of the trans charities or any individual trans person or ally give support to the Cass report. Until they agree to keep away from children how can they be considered as a worthy cause.

Well, maybe they should, but then an organisation that insists there's no difference between transwomen and women isn't likely to act in trans people's best interests, or anyone else's for that matter.

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Which ones? The 13-year-old girls who object to being sexualised and want to opt out of womanhood? Or the middle-aged men who have a sexual fetish and want to wear fishnets to work? Or the autistic children who feel they don't belong anywhere, and are told that transitioning is the solution?

I certainly don't think the second cohort need any representation.

And for the other two, identifying as trans is a solution to two entirely different problems.

They'll know from my email that donations made around now are likely to be from us

Transgender people are discriminated against and targeted for being transgender though. I think that every group who is marginalised should have people to speak on their behalf and lobby for their interests.