Get the violins out - Stonewall is "in crisis"

This is far as I've ever gone in dealing with questions to this end from students.

I don't give a view. I merely show them material they might want to read, and tell them to come to their own, independent and informed conclusions (which shouted/Tweeted slogans will never be able to provide). When asked for my actual opinion on the issue, I merely ask 'does it matter?', and bat the question back to this being about their own education - I have already been through mine.

What I do tell them, albeit I stop short of elaborating further, is that a belief system - any belief system - without room for debate or questioning is a very dangerous thing.

Indeed. What happened to the oft repeated "No debate" rhetoric?

When same-sex marriage was legalised, that was the last LGB civil rights battle won. Stonewall needed a new purpose to keep paying all those C-suite people their eyewatering salaries and so they pivoted to trans demands.

Indeed, and education runs them a close second.

I'd also be very interested to hear the answer to this question. How in the world did these trans-activist organisations come to gain such a stranglehold over the UK's main public sector institutions, certain sectors of the judiciary, and main political parties? How did they manage to do this by stealth, before those harmed by their constant assaults on the rights of women and children shone sunlight on their actions and were ignored and persectued for ten long years and more?

How were Stonewall and Mermaids able to peddle lies as being actual law, dress those lies up as 'training', and encroach into people's workspaces to brow beat them into compliance with the law as they wished it to be, rather than as it actually was? Why was attendance enforced under pain of potential disciplinary action? Why were rainbow lanyards and pronouns in signatures used to 'police' potential non-compliance?

So many 'whys'. I don't know how we will ever receive answers, but I don't think we should rest until some are forthcoming. The NHS nurses/changing facilities cases and Sarah Summers case might help provide some. Another thing I suspect is coming over the horizon is a mass legal action, in the wake of the Cass Report, against those involved with the Tavistock - individual liability now they've closed it to avoid potential corporate negligece - and its medical transitioning of children without question and without proper safeguarding procedures. Why this isn't already a national scandal is testimony to the amount of power Stonewall, Mermaids et al have wielded for the past decade.

How?

Who backed them, who swallowed and force-fed others their doublethink, who enabled them, and who turned a blind eye to the harm they were so obviously doing?

I really, really want heads to roll for this.

I'm delighted to see so many donations to LGBA, and to tell you the truth I was a bit apprehensive that I might have overstepped and people might say 'Huh, who does she think she is, speaking for MN..' so I was relieved to see 11 'likes', and so many donations - phew.

It wasn't my idea originally it was MariadeiMiracoli's.
Great username, and you've performed your own little miracolo for LGBA's finances, brava!

Total overreach from stonewall in the first place. They were becoming obsolete after the many wins for gay rights which were admirable but once a charity achieves its aims it will either massively shrink, close or find a new cause which will keep the money rolling in. They choose to focus on trans rights and whipped up a frenzy of demands from men in particular who wanted to be accepted as women, in women's spaces regardless of irrespective of their motivation or whether they had surgery, taking medication and so on. It kept the charity relevant and provided them with donations and other lucrative income streams like providing all that erroneous guidance to institutions and companies. They should be sued into non-existence.

I've worked in the charity sector and sadly many charities are grifts, they may lobby and provide leaflets and such but there is more concern about raising money to keep their offices and to be able to pay their wages and the wages of their executives than anything else.

I see many Stonewall employees are ‘open to work’ on LinkedIn

I was feeling good about the SC ruling but seeing that two year old ‘trans’ info has made me angry again.

It’s not over yet and it seems the scandal is so wide-ranging the people who should be taken through courts won’t be.

Delicious.

I think we need to be very wary going forward about any other ideologies that we are told to unquestionably accept, ones that appear to get disproportionate support from the same institutions as the trans ideology. We need to look out for the same markers - only one acceptable view point, vilification by MSM/SM - esp left wing for not following the narrative, cancellations, police/court involvement for speaking common sense but being labelled “hate”. Being told to “be kind”. Yet all the while having an undercurrent of misogyny.

The above are the materials of a Trojan horse, the one painted pink and blue was identified as such in the nick of time but not after many had been sacrificed.

But the patriarchal institutions have the design now, we need to be more ready next time.

My violin feels mis-identified, I think it might be a lyre.

I haven't got a violin. Not sure the unusual musical instrument without strings will make much noise. So sad.😂 Perhaps they should have remembered that gays, lesbians and bi people are attracted to sex, not a gender recognition certificate.

I’m going to do the same for Sex Matters. Great idea.

I wonder if this information is available under a freedom of information request? If so, and was based on Stonewall advice, what’s the chance of recouping some of those costs?

The way stonewall and their flying monkeys have managed to convince so many people that 2 year old children know they are trans and TWAW is really sinister. One of my DC is highly intelligent and autistic. Straight A* student all the way through school. Utterly convinced by this nonsense. After a brief period of identifying as bisexual, DC is in a heterosexual relationship for now and seems happy. (I wouldn't care if DC was Gay or Bi either, but the trans ideology scares me - it causes so much damage).

Here’s hoping! I wonder if we will start to see mention of Stonewall disappearing from corporate noticeboards and websites as companies seek to distance themselves now they are being shown up as the wolf in sheep’s clothing - maybe LGBA will be getting some corporate funding come their way if companies want accurate advice about how to be inclusive.

Here’s mine

🎻LGB Alliance exists and there are a multitude of trans charities that can step in to replace Stonewall's all-about-the-trans advocacy, they just have to get behind one as their leader.

Here’s an idea: LGB people need a better alliance than Stonewall.

The sad thing is, their work wasn't done. They could have campaigned for the rights of gay people in other countries, against regressive regimes, ensured the safety of gay people going abroad, highlighted the rolling back of gay rights in parts of Europe, campaigned against the shedloads of sports cash and publicity going to homophobic regimes in the ME. Instead they decided to shit on women.

Too right. But past and present Governments should also be held to account. How did Stonewall come to yield so much power and be given free rein no matter how much batshit they demanded? Organisations and public bodies quietly began to remove links to Stonewall over the last few years so they knew this was coming but still they were given public funding. One of the worst and largest organisations has been the NHS. I can't imagine costs that have been incurred by the NHS in prioritising such nonsense and the costs that will now come in reversing these policies.

Great idea. I've also donated and sent a similar email using your wording

After seeing posts here on all the great work that Sex Matters does I set up a monthly donation.

I have just sent a donation to lGB alliance - a thank you for all the work they do. Sadly, we still need great champions for LGB rights - I am happy to be an ally to this great cause (I would never support the misogynistic and sometime anti gay corporate and political manipulators Stonewall have become). Well done LGB Alliance for fighting for what’s right.

I've just sent them £100.

Justice is always for the rich, unfortunately. Or rather, legal representation. Even at a personal level, if someone takes you to court even for vexatious reasons, it can take a lot of cash for legal advice to extricate yourself.

But I wouldn't feel sad for the trans cause - there are plenty of rich folk behind the scenes who could have chosen to bankroll the other side. Where's David Tennant and his wallet?

Ultimately the outcome can't be bought. Sure, you can pay for a top legal team but as long as the judge has all the relevant info, they will make a decision based on that, not how polished your barrister was.