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"protect the dolls" - what is this?

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Brefugee · 23/04/2025 20:37

as the thread title says. I have seen this a few times now, but am none the wiser.

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SionnachRuadh · 24/04/2025 16:08

Doll is something I used to hear when I was much younger, though not as often as hen, and if there's a term I did prefer it was probably wee cuddy.

Also, why is Pedro Pascal in everything? Has the cost of living crisis hit him so hard that he has to work five jobs at a time? (See also: Phoebe Waller-Bridge)

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/04/2025 15:50

The rage from them on seeing middle aged women celebrating last Thursday was palpable.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/04/2025 15:49

FlirtsWithRhinos · 24/04/2025 14:56

They don't care whether anyone thinks they respect women or not. They don't think women have enough value that how someone feels about women could matter to anything.

Women (original sex based meaning) are just a bunch of stereotypes to them, non player characters.

Young women are a social backdrop for them to play out their identity fantasy in.

Old women who don't say things they don't like are barely sentient furniture.

Old women who do say things they don't like are aberrant jokes who are so stupid that they think they even matter.

They are furious with us not even because of our views exactly, but because we don't know that our place is not to have any views at all. That's why men who question genderism get a slightly easier ride - a man with an opinion might be wrong, but at least he is not unnatural.

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Exactly. That’s why they are raging about this court decision, as they did about the other ones before that. Because women made them happen.

Brefugee · 24/04/2025 15:06

BlakeCarrington · 24/04/2025 13:12

Thanks for the cunningly hidden spoiler Brefugee - splendid editing skills!

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 24/04/2025 14:56

JeremiahBullfrog · 24/04/2025 10:24

I would have liked to have been in the meeting where this slogan was adopted. "These people are saying we don't respect women! What word can we use to dispell that notion?"

They don't care whether anyone thinks they respect women or not. They don't think women have enough value that how someone feels about women could matter to anything.

Women (original sex based meaning) are just a bunch of stereotypes to them, non player characters.

Young women are a social backdrop for them to play out their identity fantasy in.

Old women who don't say things they don't like are barely sentient furniture.

Old women who do say things they don't like are aberrant jokes who are so stupid that they think they even matter.

They are furious with us not even because of our views exactly, but because we don't know that our place is not to have any views at all. That's why men who question genderism get a slightly easier ride - a man with an opinion might be wrong, but at least he is not unnatural.

crackedpaint · 24/04/2025 14:51

@ArabellaScott Sent you a DM.

ArabellaScott · 24/04/2025 14:38

crackedpaint · 24/04/2025 14:21

I was looking on youtube for videos on the SC ruling and there was a video by a young homosexual transexual condemning the ruling as expected. Then I clicked on another of his videos where he was discussing the fact that his desire to "transition" was sexually driven. He was a perfectly normal boy who liked being a boy but as he got to puberty he started stealing female family members clothing (huge transgression of boundaries there but he was like shrug, needs must) to dress up in while he got off.

To be honest his whole chat was essentially the same as an AGP except that he was attracted to men. He still claims to be a real women, even though he is an intact male who uses grindr to meet other gay men, he still thinks he should be seen as a woman by society and be admitted to women's spaces.

In the comments where other men who identify as women bemoaning the fact that "terfs" have made it too difficult for them to talk about the sexual pleasure and thrill they get from wearing women's clothing, presenting as women and no doubt accessing women's spaces and the women in them. The validation they get from that access to women is a means to sexual fulfilment for all of these men regardless of orientation. The needs and wants of actual women is very much secondary or simply unimportant to them.

None of them are "dolls" they are all adult men intent on abusing women for their own sexual kicks.

do you have a link?

thedancingclown · 24/04/2025 14:26

Well his half ‘sister’ is a trans woman so he definitely on the trans side. But seriously as a man with all the privileges that comes with he dares to criticise a woman for celebrating being recognised as one & to state she should be cancelled’ for it.

crackedpaint · 24/04/2025 14:21

TheCatsTongue · 24/04/2025 13:45

Dolls is likely to be used for the homosexual transsexuals, and wouldn't be appropriate for the heterosexual transsexuals (AGP), who no doubt think that they are dolls.

I was looking on youtube for videos on the SC ruling and there was a video by a young homosexual transexual condemning the ruling as expected. Then I clicked on another of his videos where he was discussing the fact that his desire to "transition" was sexually driven. He was a perfectly normal boy who liked being a boy but as he got to puberty he started stealing female family members clothing (huge transgression of boundaries there but he was like shrug, needs must) to dress up in while he got off.

To be honest his whole chat was essentially the same as an AGP except that he was attracted to men. He still claims to be a real women, even though he is an intact male who uses grindr to meet other gay men, he still thinks he should be seen as a woman by society and be admitted to women's spaces.

In the comments where other men who identify as women bemoaning the fact that "terfs" have made it too difficult for them to talk about the sexual pleasure and thrill they get from wearing women's clothing, presenting as women and no doubt accessing women's spaces and the women in them. The validation they get from that access to women is a means to sexual fulfilment for all of these men regardless of orientation. The needs and wants of actual women is very much secondary or simply unimportant to them.

None of them are "dolls" they are all adult men intent on abusing women for their own sexual kicks.

Namechange7598 · 24/04/2025 14:09

Nah. Sausage roll is rhyming slang for dole (unemployment benefits). Doll predates cockney rhyming slang
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TheCatsTongue · 24/04/2025 13:45

Dolls is likely to be used for the homosexual transsexuals, and wouldn't be appropriate for the heterosexual transsexuals (AGP), who no doubt think that they are dolls.

elgreco · 24/04/2025 13:44

Aaaah thanks. To me doll rhymes with Iol.

DialSquare · 24/04/2025 13:42

Other words they rhyme with are:

knoll
soul
sole
dole

LaLoose · 24/04/2025 13:39

LaLoose · 24/04/2025 13:38

Another Londoner here. Imagine the word ‘roe’ as in caviar and ‘doe’ as in female deer, then add an ‘s’ on the ends. Works better if your a bit gruff/cross-sounding when you say it!

You’re. Gah…

crackedpaint · 24/04/2025 13:38

@Kindersurprising Absolutely, Blaire White for example looks almost passable in videos but have you seen candid photos of him? He's built like a linebacker, very obviously male.

LaLoose · 24/04/2025 13:38

elgreco · 24/04/2025 13:29

Can you explain how? What else do they both rhyme with?

Another Londoner here. Imagine the word ‘roe’ as in caviar and ‘doe’ as in female deer, then add an ‘s’ on the ends. Works better if your a bit gruff/cross-sounding when you say it!

LonginesPrime · 24/04/2025 13:37

elgreco · 24/04/2025 13:29

Can you explain how? What else do they both rhyme with?

bowl

DialSquare · 24/04/2025 13:37

elgreco · 24/04/2025 13:29

Can you explain how? What else do they both rhyme with?

Finally, I have something to contribute to FWR!

Cockney rhyming slang is usually a two word sentence that rhymes with the one word meaning but then only the first word of the slang is used. For instance:

apples and pears - stairs - “I’m going up the apples”
Rosie Lee - tea - “anyone want a cup of Rosie?”
Ruby Murray - curry - “I really fancy a ruby”
sausage roll - doll - “taking my sausage to the pictures tonight”

Kindersurprising · 24/04/2025 13:36

crackedpaint · 24/04/2025 13:18

lol, they all think they pass! They are literally delusional. Even most feminine gay men who try to present as female don't actually pass. Its just more misogyny from these men and their chasers. These men hate women.

Yes they may ‘pass’ in a still headshot Insta photo with heavy make up straight after shaving, but they don’t pass IRL ever. Huge shoulders and hands a lot of the time, Adam’s apple, feet, shape of hips and legs. Voice, hairline, ears.

Beamur · 24/04/2025 13:33

Roll and doll rhyme with each other if you have a London/Essex accent.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 24/04/2025 13:31

@MassiveWordSalad oddly enough I usually think the opposite way on the childhood issue, how girls are told to play with dolls because Action Man was a boy's toy and "not for you". I did have some sort of army Barbie once but even she had bloody high hells on.

The word doll also makes me now either think of the horrors that are Bratz Dolls or the terrifying ones on the most recent series of Traitors!

elgreco · 24/04/2025 13:29

DialSquare · 24/04/2025 13:13

Rolls and Dolls rhyme in my London accent

Can you explain how? What else do they both rhyme with?

MassiveWordSalad · 24/04/2025 13:24

My random thoughts around the word “doll”.

It makes me think of childhood and how girls are mocked by boys for playing with dolls (when it’s action man and wrestling figures it’s different, apparently).

Creepy homunculus-type things out of a horror movie.

A fake, plastic representation of a woman or girl.

Sex dolls 🤢

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 24/04/2025 13:23

SnoopyPajamas · 23/04/2025 22:43

Does she? That's brilliant 😂

Certainly does and like most dolls they are creepy AF.

"protect the dolls" - what is this?
BackToLurk · 24/04/2025 13:20

ArtemisiaTheArtist · 23/04/2025 20:56

In South London Cockney slang an attractive woman is a "sausage". Sausage= sausage roll = doll.

Mildly sexist but there you go.

TBF ‘sausage’ would be appropriate for transwomen

Anyway Desigual have not had the dolls memo

www.desigual.com/en_GB/new-desigual/

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