Page 2 | Kemi Badenoch v Kier Starmer at PMQs 23/4/25: Starmer won't apologise to women.

NoFineBalance · 2025-04-23T13:32:18+00:00

I haven't seen another thread on this, so hope it's ok to start one. Kemi Badenoch v Kier Starmer at PMQs. Starmer can get to fuck, the weasel. Does he realise how foolish he sounds? All he does is attack her on matters irrelevant to the issue at hand, so he doesn't have to answer a simple question. (Apologies for the GB news link to those who find them unpalatable.) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=225s&v=Y4AqGGHRt9o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4AqGGHRt9o&t=225s]]

SionnachRuadh · 23/04/2025 18:20

One of the few good things Starmer ever did was to welcome Luciana Berger back, to show things had moved on from Corbyn.

It would be good for whoever succeeds this cockwomble to make the same offer to Rosie.

lifeturnsonadime · 23/04/2025 18:18

dubaichocolate · 23/04/2025 16:50

https://x.com/realBenBloch/status/1915000529979113957

A glorious cutaway to Rosie Duffield in case it wasn’t in the clip posted.

Absolutely brilliant.

Rosie nails it!

UnhappyAndYouKnowIt · 23/04/2025 18:17

Rosie Duffield really does deserve a public apology and I wouldn't mind seeing pressure applied until she gets one.

Floisme · 23/04/2025 18:05

I think he’s missed an opportunity. An admission that he’d got things wrong plus an apology would have been very disarming. Even now I don’t think it’s too late to do it, although the longer he leaves it, the harder it’s going to be. Maybe Wes Streeting could give him some tips.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/04/2025 17:48

He is still calling it, “The debate”.

CarefulN0w · 23/04/2025 17:47

NoFineBalance · 23/04/2025 17:22

Kemi absolutely did not sit idly by. She was steadfast in her belief in biological reality and women's safety, and put up with all kinds of lies about her and put downs in the Women and Equalities Select Committee, often from people on her own side, like the odious Caroline Nokes.

As an aside, I enjoyed CN being in speaker’s chair for Bridget Phillipson’s statement yesterday.

SionnachRuadh · 23/04/2025 17:44

I can stand a dweeb but an arrogant dweeb is something else.

DragonRunor · 23/04/2025 17:39

PM’s questions - never PM’s answers!

SugarPlumFairyCakes · 23/04/2025 17:37

That clip has made me so angry! What an absolute fecking spineless, coward that man is! As a life long socialist I cannot believe that his twisted, distorted sound bites and absolute refusal to owe his actions and words. Kemi is far more believable and truthful. FFS just acknowledge you were wrong Keir. He is not just opening the door for Reform in this area, he is actively welcoming them in!

Oblomov25 · 23/04/2025 17:30

I had high hopes for KS pre being made leader. What a wet blanket he is. What a prick.

Rhaidimiddim · 23/04/2025 17:28

LlynTegid · 23/04/2025 14:35

Let him or her who is without sin cast the first stone.

Kemi Badenoch was Minister for Equalities for nearly two years. If the government whom she was a part of had actually addressed this and engaged with the Scottish SNP led administration, the court case would have been completely unnecessary.

They did, as in blocking SNP legislation regarding the trans issue and self-ID, thus bringing down Sturgeon

moto748e · 23/04/2025 17:26

dubaichocolate · 23/04/2025 16:50

https://x.com/realBenBloch/status/1915000529979113957

A glorious cutaway to Rosie Duffield in case it wasn’t in the clip posted.

That's quite a look! 😀

Original poster

NoFineBalance · 23/04/2025 17:22

Kemi absolutely did not sit idly by. She was steadfast in her belief in biological reality and women's safety, and put up with all kinds of lies about her and put downs in the Women and Equalities Select Committee, often from people on her own side, like the odious Caroline Nokes.

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Imnobody4 · 23/04/2025 17:20

Kemi also supported Kishwer Falkner when there were spurious complaints about her.

She also held out against the Conversion Bill.

dubaichocolate · 23/04/2025 17:08

Sajid David.

myplace · 23/04/2025 17:07

Kemi issued several ‘clarifications’ or statements about it (possibly education related?). She certainly didn’t sit idly.

Who commissioned the Cass report?

JohnTheRevelator · 23/04/2025 17:03

He's an arse. And to think that I was glad when Labour won the election.

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NoFineBalance · 23/04/2025 17:03

dubaichocolate · 23/04/2025 16:50

https://x.com/realBenBloch/status/1915000529979113957

A glorious cutaway to Rosie Duffield in case it wasn’t in the clip posted.

😂😂😂

Oh Rosie, I hope you enjoy every moment of watching that idiot squirm!

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dubaichocolate · 23/04/2025 16:50

https://x.com/realBenBloch/status/1915000529979113957

A glorious cutaway to Rosie Duffield in case it wasn’t in the clip posted.

https://x.com/realBenBloch/status/1915000529979113957

EasternStandard · 23/04/2025 16:16

LlynTegid · 23/04/2025 14:35

Let him or her who is without sin cast the first stone.

Kemi Badenoch was Minister for Equalities for nearly two years. If the government whom she was a part of had actually addressed this and engaged with the Scottish SNP led administration, the court case would have been completely unnecessary.

KB pushed for biological sex in the Act. Do you recall what Starmer said to that? He probably doesn’t either.

Here you go

A timeline of Starmer's views:
2020: Self-ID and trans women are women
2021: 'Only women have a cervix' is something that should not be said
2022: Vast majority of women don’t have a penis
2023: 99% of women don’t have a penis
2024: Only women have a cervix and a woman is an adult female but making “jokes” about a political leader who doesn’t know the definition of woman is an “anti-trans” joke
2024: The law doesn’t need to be clarified as it’s already clear
2025: A woman is an adult female and I welcome the Supreme Court for giving clarity and now the law is clear

Kemi has been consistent on pushing for this. It’s Labour and their acolytes who worked against her.

EasternStandard · 23/04/2025 16:14

FigRollsAlly · 23/04/2025 16:03

Yes, an arrogant fool.

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An arrogant, lying fool.

All he does is bully and sneer nonsense at PMQs and avoid answering every question.

Hope he feels the repercussions in votes.

hihelenhi · 23/04/2025 16:10

LlynTegid · 23/04/2025 14:35

Let him or her who is without sin cast the first stone.

Kemi Badenoch was Minister for Equalities for nearly two years. If the government whom she was a part of had actually addressed this and engaged with the Scottish SNP led administration, the court case would have been completely unnecessary.

To be fair to Badenoch (and I am certainly no fan of the Tories, or in fact, most of her other policy stances), she has been consistently good on this personally, seems to have tried everything in her power and has largely been shouted down and smeared by the various TRA factions among MPs and in the "liberal" press (The Guardian's John Crace was a particularly obsessive offender here)

She was one of the few ministers to actually meet with Keira Bell, for example.

I imagine that's why, despite their political differences, Rosie Duffield is standing up for her, as Kemi did with her in the face of the appalling treatment Rosie was experiencing within the Labour party with zero help or even acknowledgement from her own leader.

FigRollsAlly · 23/04/2025 16:03

AgathaX · 23/04/2025 15:38

He sounded like a fool. He is a fool.

Yes, an arrogant fool.

AgathaX · 23/04/2025 15:38

He sounded like a fool. He is a fool.

Floisme · 23/04/2025 14:55

I agree that no mainstream party comes out well from this debacle. Right now, I can’t envisage ever trusting any of them again.

However, I don’t recall anyone in the Conservative Party being treated like Rosie Duffield was for dissenting from the party line. I don’t think Labour are doing themselves any favours by refusing to acknowledge this