Trade Union Responses - Civil Service

Quite a lot disaffiliated years ago

Glad that Nitter is back so you don't have to have a twitter account to read it.

This was a tweet from the Fire Brigades Union

https://nitter.net/fbunational/status/1922595681010585654#m

For ref:

"We know that the law is not always on the right side of history. The Supreme Court ruling last month does not make public spaces safer for anyone. The interim guidance is unworkable, unhelpful and will only lead to an increase in discrimination for workers, including in fire stations and in control rooms. Trans people are not a threat. Gender-based violence and misogyny are."

I wonder how many women have left because of this absolute waste of time.

On a side note: since Keir has now realised women don’t have penises, are the Unions still prepared to fund Labour? Especially as he’s now, hilariously, a newly reborn Enoch Powell.

PCS have a conference next week and there's already been a range of motions approved on trans rights. One thing is the votes on these at branch level nowadays are a show of hands on a remote call. So . Well it's not an anonymous ballot.

https://www.pcs.org.uk/ADC25

Didn't ex PCS head Mark Serwotka's wife used to be a big wig in GC women's advocacy?

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/author/ruth-serwotka

There's one motion in there that castigates the (stand up to racism/ SWP ish left coalition) for not implementing earlier rulings and it groups together Trans and Non Binary

Nothing from them in the latest update, or mentions in our last meeting.

I assume so, as I've not had a peep which I find v interesting - although I haven't had the impression that Prospect are captured in this area.

The FDA went out to members yesterday. They noted some members have been asking them to take a position (mm I bet they have!). But the statement boiled down to "we've taken external legal advice and are saying nothing ahead of final EHRC position".

I'm quite wary of where they may ultimately land, but at least this kicks it into the long grass for now

I am in PCS and have had nothing from our branch or Group Executive Committee. I absolutely agree with what has been said above- I'm a rep, I've been to conference, I attend branch meetings and argue my case- if people won't do that, then someone else will step up and they may not share your opinions.

They might not be women friendly now, but we can change that.

I've known parish council members who would agree.

I spoke to a member of Unison about the judgment the other day. He is also in the SNP.

He said the reason these groups get to take over is because so few people actually get involved and come to meetings so it leaves it wide open to groups with an agenda to get in and take over. He told me the SNP had lost about 10% of its membership, mostly women.

I guess one thing he potentially wouldn’t notice is that, when these aggressive men do invade, they often split whatever members are there. Two opposing groups form and the group that feels cowed simply remove themselves. It’s a pattern familiar to anyone who has been targeted by narcissists/bullies in their lifetime.

Very disappointed about PCS as I hadn’t heard much about them being anti-women before, unlike Unison and various others. If the Darlington Nurses union starts a branch for non-nurses, I would absolutely move to them. I’m also currently PCS and haven’t received anything.

I’m FDA and haven’t seen anything from them yet.

Highlighting this thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5322533-unison-elections-female-only-seats-are-not-so

showing unison appear to be allowing a male person to stand for a female only seat.

I still haven’t heard from them either. I’d like to think that’s a good sign but…

I’ve had something from my union reps that the bit of the public sector I am in haven’t changed their policies. Quick check of the policy shows it doesn’t comply with the Supreme Court decision. Time to start encouraging my employer and the union to comply with equality law I think.

I am not surprised though - Labour and the Trades Unions grew up together and they were both male dominated.

And all this guff about standing with Transpeople is all about TransWomen found to be most definitely NOT women.

I think I will have to leave UCU given the GS Jo Grady's SM tweets from Saturday's pro-trans demo. I knew they were captured but this doubling down is appalling

I'm PCS, have been waiting but nothing yet.

Obviously I am not surprised.

That's a bugger. It's my union. May need to leave.

What do we stop?
Women’s rights
When do we stop them?
Now!

Exactly this. These people seem to have no understanding of how offensive their open prioritising of men over women is.

I don't know whether it was just from the Local Branch of Prospect - it might have been.

I'm in Prospect and haven't heard anything.

Womens rights in law are 'appalling and devastating' .

Righto.