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Keir Starmer "adult female" niggle or am I nitpicking?

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lechiffre55 · 23/04/2025 09:37

Is anyone else getting this wierd vibe that Keir Starmer still doesn't get it.
I'm grateful for the adult female bit, but that the word human got left out makes me think he's just repeating a few words without really understanding what he's saying.

If all adult females are women then adult females of all species are women, cows, dogs, cats, bees, elephants etc.....

There's a test for dementia that involves three words being spoken and then requested to be spoken back. Is "adult human female" really that difficult to remember?

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ScholesPanda · 23/04/2025 11:20

I think it was deliberate so that he couldn't be accused of quoting Posie Parker.

Kinsters · 23/04/2025 11:17

I assume he doesn't want to say adult human female as that would align him too closely with Posy Parker. I'm sure he is trying to keep doors open so he can back out of this if the court of public opinion turns out to be against it (unlikely imo).

EasternStandard · 23/04/2025 11:13

TheOtherRaven · 23/04/2025 09:39

From experience so far, I would personally not rely on that man to tell me the right time. I doubt it was accidental.

He does however get the head teacher's sticker in assembly this week for stuffing the most forms of the word 'clear' into a comment.

Yep.

He struggles with this stuff and it shows.

augustusglupe · 23/04/2025 10:56

I felt the same, he chose his words carefully.
As someone else said, he looked like he’d swallowed a wasp.

Tallisker · 23/04/2025 10:53

I thought the same. Adult female what? Cow? Horse? Lobster? I appear to have taken to shouting at the telly. And the radio. I had to turn off Any Questions the other day as Sian Berry was just unbearable.

JeremiahBullfrog · 23/04/2025 10:50

I think this is unreasonable. We know what he means. He's not writing a dictionary and his word isn't law.

Here's another thing people say: "born a woman". I'm sure people on here must say it. Of course nobody is strictly born a woman, when you are born you are a girl. But we wouldn't accuse somebody who used that phrase of not knowing what they were talking about, as if they actually believed people can be born as adults.

FOJN · 23/04/2025 10:43

I agree. He's a lawyer, he knows words, and how they are used, matter. Leaving out the word human gave me an uncomfortable feeling it was an intentional omission but I don't have any good ideas about why he might have done that.

The EA 2010 states that (for the purposes of the act) a woman is a female of any age and a man is a male of any age so the inclusion of the word adult whilst omitting human seems like an ominous sign.

I freely admit that, having given me no reason to trust him, I do not trust Starmer so am possibly being paranoid.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 23/04/2025 09:43

LudvillasCave · 23/04/2025 09:41

I think the human is implied

Nothing should be implied.

This is why the law had to be clarified.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 23/04/2025 09:42

it’s very odd, I agree, when we take into consideration his background.

A head on the CPS would certainly know they have to use the full expression.

LudvillasCave · 23/04/2025 09:41

I think the human is implied

TheOtherRaven · 23/04/2025 09:39

From experience so far, I would personally not rely on that man to tell me the right time. I doubt it was accidental.

He does however get the head teacher's sticker in assembly this week for stuffing the most forms of the word 'clear' into a comment.