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Girl Guides and the SC judgement

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Timefordrama · 22/04/2025 21:15

It was the Girl Guides' trans policies which first opened my eyes to the nonsense. I've just checked their website and they are still saying that trans girls can use girls' toilets and changing rooms, and share accommodation with whoever they want. There's no indication that the policies are gong to be reviewed in the light of the SC judgement. Anyone know any more about this?

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Oldfashioneddinosaur · 22/04/2025 21:51

I'm also interested. When I asked them about whether men who self identify as women can be volunteers (for camps etc), they said yes, and that parents wouldn't be informed. They surely can't just continue with this after the ruling last week.

HelenaWaiting · 22/04/2025 21:48

Timefordrama · 22/04/2025 21:15

It was the Girl Guides' trans policies which first opened my eyes to the nonsense. I've just checked their website and they are still saying that trans girls can use girls' toilets and changing rooms, and share accommodation with whoever they want. There's no indication that the policies are gong to be reviewed in the light of the SC judgement. Anyone know any more about this?

I wonder if it has occurred to them that this is why their membership figures are falling?

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 22/04/2025 21:46

It will probably take organisations a while to make, approve and publish changes to their policies, and those that are reluctant to do so may delay as long as they can get away with unless/until pushed into it. If you/your children are involved with GG, how about writing to them flagging up the ruling and asking for confirmation that their policies will be updated, and when you can expect the new policies to be shared? The more people that write and put pressure on them, the more likely (and sooner) it is to happen. I don't have any link to GG these days (though I was one, many years ago!), but am planning to write to some other orgs that my DCs are involved with, in a similar way, to nudge them to update their policies!

shrinkingthiswinter · 22/04/2025 21:45

Did anyone try to tell them they were misinterpreting and misapplying the law?

Oh yeah, we all did. But we were just a bunch of silly women.

Rightsraptor · 22/04/2025 21:41

It was GG that got me into the Terf Wars too.

I appreciate that some aspects will take some time to change but you'd think updating their website would be the first thing they'd do. They surely can't be planning to flout the law?

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Timefordrama · 22/04/2025 21:38

Although they do seem a bit reluctant to do so!

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Timefordrama · 22/04/2025 21:37

To be fair, they do now include transboys.

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AlexandraLeaving · 22/04/2025 21:32

I don’t know anything, but have wondered the same. In their case, it is not just the toilet and sleeping accommodation issues to consider but the whole admissions policy. I can’t see they can run a “girls only” organisation without (a) keeping all males out and (b) allowing all females, inc transboys, to join. Of course, I and others have thought that for a while, but now the SC agrees with us!