Womans Hour Wed 23rd April.

Can anyone confirm, do I have to wait until tomorrow to listen to this? All I can find on replay is Louise Thompson's interview from yesterday.

Damn!

Cannot remember who came up with the idea but on a thread a few years ago on here, posters were trying to come up with equally demeaning terms as 'uterus haver' etc. the winner for me was 'ball bearings'. Love the wit on here.

It should be ‘men’

It sounded to me as if the questions were dubbed in afterwards.

Let me help. It's Men. Say Men Every time to show up the Alice in Wonderland thinking.

For example, Should a man be able to strip search a woman.

It should be "men". Or "male people" or "males who claim to be women" (MCW) if you're on Mumsnet.

Please confirm that you weren't paid by the BBC to post this, because I heard a completely different interview!

Have you listened to WH before now? Have you heard the way they celebrate other women who've had a legal battle and won? Have you heard the warmth and palliness in Nuala and Anita's voices and all the 'you're looking lovely' shite when they're interviewing? Jenni Murray would have been celebrating a win for women's rights. Instead this interviewer (her name doesn't seem to be showing on BBC Sounds) read out her questions as if FWR had done something unpleasant.

Agree with everyone else about what a star Susan is. Such a shame the BBC can't manage to overcome their bias and platform more of these clear sighted and authoritative women - maybe as often as they platform drag queens? 🙄

Although I agree that the contrast between the animated tone of the presenter when moving on to discuss "bad friendships" jarred with her expressionless questions I agree with everyone who's pointed out that this was an excellent interview where Susan was allowed to respond clearly. And it's great to hear a clear and unambiguous woman centred response to the "what about the poor transwomen?" I'm also uneasy about being seen to "tone police" a woman presenter who's done a good professional job.

Just went to the site myself -
"Our apologies, but there have been so many orders in the last few days, we have run out of stock!

We are happy to still take your order, but please be aware there will be a wait of approx 3-4 weeks before we can post it out to you."

Woman's Hour has slid into the 'daytime tv magazine show' gutter.

FWS are way out of their league.

I also hadn't realised that For Women Scotland was originally literally four women! Interesting that although there has been a lot of coverage of JKR's donation with the implication that they have been completely bankrolled by her, the average is £37 from thousands of women via crowdfunding.

I might get a badge... forwomen.scot/badges/

I forgot about this but will listen later, as I was listening to Nicky Campbell's phone in on 5 Live. From 10-10.30am they were discussing with a panel of MPs the Supreme Court decision and Keir Starmer's reverse ferret and it was by turns infuriating and comedy gold. Lots of mentions of Rosie Duffield too - the Labour guy was an absolute prick, to be honest. My favourite part was when 'Marilyn' called in to ask in a very deep voice which toilet 'she' should use…

She’s usually on R5 Live in the afternoon. A mixture of serious and humorous stuff.

Susan Smith was brilliant, so calm, measured and eloquent. I'm glad that the interviewer gave her plenty of time to talk, but dear God, why does every other question have to be about how this affects "transwomen" ? Why is it women's responsibility for ensuring that some men aren't sad at not having access to women's single sex spaces?

The interviewer was so audibly relieved to get onto the next much fluffier item that it made me laugh.

Woman's Hour though - how disappointing it has become. How I wish they'd grown a fucking spine.

Image follows with contact details. I managed to delete it on the last post.

In addition to or instead of writing to BBC complaints, consider writing to the Feedback programme. The next edition is tomorrow, repeated on Sunday, which might be too soon for them to gather responses.

Excellent interview- well done Susan!

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The presenter was Clare McDonnell. She's not one of the main ones but does episodes here and there.

I too thought it was a good interview.

The interview put the 'opposite' points but then sat back and let Susan clearly refute them.

Once again I’m struck by how much people in general - both men and women - get really uncomfortable/angry/defensive when women say “no”, pushback in any way or simply aren’t deemed to be sufficiently kind.

It’s been hugely evident over this past week since the ruling.

IIRC, the word started as 'transwoman'. This was back in the early days (1970s?) of sexologist/psychologists Ray Blanchard and Ken Zucker writing academic papers. It is the later transactivists who inserted the space, then claiming that trans was an adjective - but it's just not.

How fantastic was that??
Susan Smith was excellent. Answered clearly, intelligently and compassionately and in plain language that anyone could understand. Covered so many bases too.

I thought the presenter handled it perfectly. I took it that she was asking these questions in order to let SS to refute them. She asked the questions then stayed quiet and let her answer fully with no interruption whatsoever. I got the impression that she was 100% on our side and asked clever questions so that Susan could put her side across, which she did with ease and eloquence. Especially loved that she gave her space to talk about the women who formed FWS and the background to the case.

GC views given space and time. On Woman’s Hour. At fucking last.

Feeling yet more waves of relief, and gratitude towards FWS and all the other others.
Still can’t quite believe this is all happening.

*Edited for poor grammar 🙄

Have another look... It's changed but no doubt will be changed again

Just gone to edit and someone beat me to it 😁