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BBC headline: Starmer does not believe TW are women

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WarriorN · 22/04/2025 15:46

Top of the app just now as I opened it.

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BBC headline: Starmer does not believe TW are women
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SmegmaCausesBV · 24/04/2025 11:49

I've never voted Tory in my life but she is giving me pause for thought. It's not much to ask if the PM knows which sex his wife, son or daughter is, for example.

EasternStandard · 24/04/2025 11:23

Shortshriftandlethal · 24/04/2025 10:29

I really appreciated the way that Kemi Badenoch brought up the issue of the re-appointment of Baroness Falkner, and that she ( Badenoch) would keep holding Starmer to account when it comes to who Labour appoints as the next head of the EHRC. He's not going to be able to bow to pressure from within his own party to appoint someone like Harriet Harman.

Badenoch is at her best on this issue......and we can take some comfort from the fact she won't let him get away with anything without scrutiny.

She’s excellent and one of the few who has been consistent.

Unlike Starmer who changes each year, from TWAW to I ‘always thought’. Yeh no why lie.

TonTonMacoute · 24/04/2025 11:07

(2) Why does that Matt cartoon have a sensitive content warning?

Slip of the finger! By the time the picture appeared in my post I couldn't go back and change it 🤷‍♀️

Shortshriftandlethal · 24/04/2025 10:29

I really appreciated the way that Kemi Badenoch brought up the issue of the re-appointment of Baroness Falkner, and that she ( Badenoch) would keep holding Starmer to account when it comes to who Labour appoints as the next head of the EHRC. He's not going to be able to bow to pressure from within his own party to appoint someone like Harriet Harman.

Badenoch is at her best on this issue......and we can take some comfort from the fact she won't let him get away with anything without scrutiny.

ButterCrackers · 24/04/2025 08:40

Hoardasurass · 23/04/2025 22:42

Ooo I bet the TRAs won't like that.
Still no apology for Rosie Duffield though.
I did appreciate the camera man making a rather timely pan over to Rosie Duffield when starmer was non answering Kemi Badenochs question at pms questions today 😅

I heard this debate on the radio. Fancy a Tory asking for an apology and standing up for a previous Labour Party MP. Never forget - Starmer on Duffield's comment that only women have a cervix was "something that shouldn't be said" and was "not right" .

peanutbuttertoasty · 23/04/2025 22:48

Not sure why she’s saying it was a mistake not to look at amending the equality act though? Surely that’s not in women’s interests? unless she just means clearer language? A bit wooly.

Hoardasurass · 23/04/2025 22:42

Ooo I bet the TRAs won't like that.
Still no apology for Rosie Duffield though.
I did appreciate the camera man making a rather timely pan over to Rosie Duffield when starmer was non answering Kemi Badenochs question at pms questions today 😅

SmegmaCausesBV · 23/04/2025 22:38

Wonder which country Cruella will pick?

peanutbuttertoasty · 23/04/2025 22:35

Rosie duffield on newsnight now

WarriorN · 23/04/2025 20:26

Lacoutine · 23/04/2025 00:47

(1) Who on earth would have thought a week ago that we’d see that headline at the top of the BBC website?? I know we are not home and dry with it all yet but it really is amazing!
(2) Why does that Matt cartoon have a sensitive content warning? 🫣😆

All my photos with any word such as gender / sex have had a sensitivity warning!

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Skyellaskerry · 23/04/2025 06:34

PMQs today?

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 23/04/2025 02:11

He's clearly very unprincipled and lacking in integrity.

It doesn't even sound like he's changed his own belief - which anybody has a right to do - but that he simply sees his stated belief as whatever the law says.

A principled person with integrity would say something like "My own belief is still that TWAW, but I fully accept that the law states the opposite, so the law obviously takes precedence over my personal beliefs".

An unprincipled, swayed-by-the-wind person will say, well, exactly what Starmer has just said.

He reminds me of the chuggers who are so passionate about the charity that they're being paid to collect for today; but tomorrow, they'll have completely forgotten about its very existence and be totally personally devoted to whatever the note tells them now.

peanutbuttertoasty · 23/04/2025 01:09

SmegmaCausesBV · 23/04/2025 00:37

Which he will drone at you as though he is holding his nose while doing an impression of a British Rail guard.

Think that job is about his level TBH. He’d be great at it. Proper jobsworth

Lacoutine · 23/04/2025 00:47

(1) Who on earth would have thought a week ago that we’d see that headline at the top of the BBC website?? I know we are not home and dry with it all yet but it really is amazing!
(2) Why does that Matt cartoon have a sensitive content warning? 🫣😆

SmegmaCausesBV · 23/04/2025 00:37

PaterPower · 23/04/2025 00:35

Starmer’s a “don’t like that opinion? Well wait five minutes and I’ll have a different one for you” kind of guy

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Which he will drone at you as though he is holding his nose while doing an impression of a British Rail guard.

PaterPower · 23/04/2025 00:35

Starmer’s a “don’t like that opinion? Well wait five minutes and I’ll have a different one for you” kind of guy

ErrolTheDragon · 23/04/2025 00:15

murasaki · 22/04/2025 23:55

I don't think he's convinced at all, but he's worried about the reform vote.

I doubt he was ever convinced by TWAW but mistakenly thought that’s where the wind was blowing. Now he’s probably relieved by the judgement but needs to get his house in order to mitigate the damage they’ve done to themselves and not hand the local elections to reform on a plate.

SmegmaCausesBV · 22/04/2025 23:57

murasaki · 22/04/2025 23:55

I don't think he's convinced at all, but he's worried about the reform vote.

Well Reform is a TRA wet dream when they take their dresses off?

murasaki · 22/04/2025 23:55

SmegmaCausesBV · 22/04/2025 23:53

Just in time for the local elections, well well well.
Maybe it's because they don't act like women - all the crime figures and entitlement? Finally convinced him.

I don't think he's convinced at all, but he's worried about the reform vote.

SmegmaCausesBV · 22/04/2025 23:53

Just in time for the local elections, well well well.
Maybe it's because they don't act like women - all the crime figures and entitlement? Finally convinced him.

Rummly · 22/04/2025 23:52

Starmer’s position - like all the other fools who took the same line - was that a woman was defined by the law, not by biology and common sense.

You could at least say of the trans mob that they pushed this crap because it got them the ‘rights’ they craved.

But, incredibly, Starmer actually believed the legal nonsense. Because he’s a half-witted opportunist who’s scared to think for himself and to speak honestly. It’s his cowardly self-interest, ultimately.

peanutbuttertoasty · 22/04/2025 23:50

murasaki · 22/04/2025 23:40

Is he going to properly apologise to Rosie Duffield then?

Too cowardly

HesSoBadHesGood · 22/04/2025 23:44

Enough4me · 22/04/2025 23:40

It was just another lie for him, he'd say anything to get the job he wanted.

So this. How did we get here, and where are we going?

Enough4me · 22/04/2025 23:40

It was just another lie for him, he'd say anything to get the job he wanted.

HesSoBadHesGood · 22/04/2025 23:40

mids2019 · 22/04/2025 16:02

Good. Had to be done but finally leadership.

He's not leading though. He is waiting for someone else to proclaim, then following. Previously he "led" with transwomen are women, some women have penises, it is wrong to say only women have a cervix. That's not leadership either, that is crazy town and he is our Prime Minister. God save us.

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