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Should I respond to his ridiculous take - Transmen to make a "nuisance" in toilets

64 replies

ICantDoItAll · 22/04/2025 15:15

This post appeared on my feed earlier. I usually appreciate this person’s commentary as he tends to articulate things in the news very clearly, but this one really grated. I’ve considered replying, though I’m unsure if doing so might attract backlash—I don’t know how widely my comments would be seen. But surely I’m not the only one who finds this take absurd? For one thing, trans men have been notably quiet about the Supreme Court ruling. More importantly, the implication seems to be: trans men—who have generally just wanted to live their lives without fanfare—should now perform masculinity to such an extent that it makes women feel threatened?

A call to 'arms' to all trans men.
In light of the recent UK supreme court decision confirming that use of single sex spaces are to be determined by sex at birth or biological sex, I urge every masculine looking trans man in the UK to nuisance protest by using the ladies toilets as often as you can. If you have a beard and muscles, even better. Keep proof of your sex at birth with you for when you are challenged, to show that your birth sex is female. Do it in toilets and in changing rooms all over the UK. When you do so be loud and attract as much attention as possible, and try to use them at the busiest times you can. You go and demand your space and entitlement in any female only space you can find. Do it in gyms, meditation classes, yoga classes, doctors offices and hospitals, anywhere and everywhere. The more sensitive the space, the better. Be loud and be proud. If they try to refuse you or shut you out, make a scene and cite the judgment. The only way to show them the absurdity of this ruling is to be absurd. Nuisance protest. And when you do, let them know politely, that unlike trans women, you are sexually attracted to women.
You owe this to your trans sisters. This affects you as much as it does them.

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JeremiahBullfrog · 22/04/2025 16:49

Do these legions of scary muscly bearded transmen actually exist?

OuterSpaceCadet · 22/04/2025 16:46

Misogynists use misogynist tactic to protest slight thwart in their misogyny shocker.

redsplodge · 22/04/2025 16:40

I did wonder if this would be a tactic employed to protest the ruling. Didn't think someone would stoop so low as to suggest 'The more sensitive the space, the better' - to me the most sensitive spaces are where women are especially vulnerable, so this twat is suggesting transmen kick up a stink where it's going to cause distress to the most vulnerable women, who have fuck all responsibility for the SC ruling.

Hmm, thinking again, why am I surprised? People like that never have consideration for women. He's even suggesting transmen inform people 'they're attracted to women' in these situations, none of which are appropriate for blurting out your sexual orientation with no context whatsoever, so opening them up to complaints of sexual harassment.

Edit to remove a rogue 'an'

TheOtherRaven · 22/04/2025 16:39

A call to misogynistic anti social behaviour.

People are going to start joining up the dots shortly and getting really over this movement and any sympathy for it if they are not careful. Saturday did them no good at all, and this will make things worse.

And yes. Men sending women to pester women (intentionally, upset them as much as possible) to punish them into letting men back into womens spaces to.... pester women.

SidewaysOtter · 22/04/2025 16:38

Funny how the men have suddenly noticed the women, isn't it, now they've got a use for them?

cavalier · 22/04/2025 16:37

ICantDoItAll · 22/04/2025 15:15

This post appeared on my feed earlier. I usually appreciate this person’s commentary as he tends to articulate things in the news very clearly, but this one really grated. I’ve considered replying, though I’m unsure if doing so might attract backlash—I don’t know how widely my comments would be seen. But surely I’m not the only one who finds this take absurd? For one thing, trans men have been notably quiet about the Supreme Court ruling. More importantly, the implication seems to be: trans men—who have generally just wanted to live their lives without fanfare—should now perform masculinity to such an extent that it makes women feel threatened?

A call to 'arms' to all trans men.
In light of the recent UK supreme court decision confirming that use of single sex spaces are to be determined by sex at birth or biological sex, I urge every masculine looking trans man in the UK to nuisance protest by using the ladies toilets as often as you can. If you have a beard and muscles, even better. Keep proof of your sex at birth with you for when you are challenged, to show that your birth sex is female. Do it in toilets and in changing rooms all over the UK. When you do so be loud and attract as much attention as possible, and try to use them at the busiest times you can. You go and demand your space and entitlement in any female only space you can find. Do it in gyms, meditation classes, yoga classes, doctors offices and hospitals, anywhere and everywhere. The more sensitive the space, the better. Be loud and be proud. If they try to refuse you or shut you out, make a scene and cite the judgment. The only way to show them the absurdity of this ruling is to be absurd. Nuisance protest. And when you do, let them know politely, that unlike trans women, you are sexually attracted to women.
You owe this to your trans sisters. This affects you as much as it does them.

Absolutely disgusting
won’t help their cause atall and will put other trans people at risk of assault idiots !!!

ImConfusedDotComHelp · 22/04/2025 16:33

BiologicalRobot · 22/04/2025 15:41

So a man is demanding his support humans (ie women) to do his dirty work of harassing and bullying females? Including young girls?

Wow. Just another cesspit man shouting out how much he hates women. Bravo.

This. Creepy

Cantunseeit · 22/04/2025 16:26

Once again a man demanding women act in the service of other men - so progressive

Greyskybluesky · 22/04/2025 16:25

"doctors offices" ?

#pedant

Igneococcus · 22/04/2025 16:06

Worriedandsuspicious · 22/04/2025 15:37

Transmen suddenly getting attention

That was what I was going to say too.

NeedToChangeName · 22/04/2025 16:05

Fine by me if transmen come into female toilets

TheaBrandt1 · 22/04/2025 15:55

The trans men I know are wispy confused teenage girls - the feelings they will inspire in most women is concern for them rather than fear.

Whereareyourshoes · 22/04/2025 15:52

“And when you do, let them know politely, that unlike trans women, you are sexually attracted to women.
You owe this to your trans sisters. This affects you as much as it does them.”

What self indulgent bs. Trans men owe them nothing. And what about the trans men who are attracted to men? And what about the trans women who are attracted to women? Is this person trying to erase their existence?

notnorman · 22/04/2025 15:49

I don’t know what’s going on here. Is this a man or a woman

WinterFoxes · 22/04/2025 15:49

Bizarre assumption that transmen are attracted to women. I know three transmen. All of them are in relationships with men. And as we know ow, the transwomen who cause issues are attracted to dominating and bullying, threatening, controlling and coercing women, whatever their sexual orientation.

Not a rational call to arms by any standard.

LonginesPrime · 22/04/2025 15:48

Honestly though, I would just let them get on with it.

Just like the transwomen at the weekend pissing on Parliament Square and threatening violence against women in an attempt to convince women to welcome them into their spaces, all that intimidating women will do is to convince organisations that trans people need separate third spaces to avoid disruption.

Thelnebriati · 22/04/2025 15:45

Women as support humans, again. If you want to respond, ask him if this is an example of how Man built civilisation because Woman is becoming increasingly dubious of the claim.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 22/04/2025 15:45

ICantDoItAll · 22/04/2025 15:15

This post appeared on my feed earlier. I usually appreciate this person’s commentary as he tends to articulate things in the news very clearly, but this one really grated. I’ve considered replying, though I’m unsure if doing so might attract backlash—I don’t know how widely my comments would be seen. But surely I’m not the only one who finds this take absurd? For one thing, trans men have been notably quiet about the Supreme Court ruling. More importantly, the implication seems to be: trans men—who have generally just wanted to live their lives without fanfare—should now perform masculinity to such an extent that it makes women feel threatened?

A call to 'arms' to all trans men.
In light of the recent UK supreme court decision confirming that use of single sex spaces are to be determined by sex at birth or biological sex, I urge every masculine looking trans man in the UK to nuisance protest by using the ladies toilets as often as you can. If you have a beard and muscles, even better. Keep proof of your sex at birth with you for when you are challenged, to show that your birth sex is female. Do it in toilets and in changing rooms all over the UK. When you do so be loud and attract as much attention as possible, and try to use them at the busiest times you can. You go and demand your space and entitlement in any female only space you can find. Do it in gyms, meditation classes, yoga classes, doctors offices and hospitals, anywhere and everywhere. The more sensitive the space, the better. Be loud and be proud. If they try to refuse you or shut you out, make a scene and cite the judgment. The only way to show them the absurdity of this ruling is to be absurd. Nuisance protest. And when you do, let them know politely, that unlike trans women, you are sexually attracted to women.
You owe this to your trans sisters. This affects you as much as it does them.

The rank misogyny of this is appalling, women are just sub human to these people aren’t they?

OestreBunny · 22/04/2025 15:43

You owe this to your trans sisters.

Why, what have they ever done for trans men?

JazzyBBBG · 22/04/2025 15:42

Got to wonder why he cares so much? Same as all these women defending trans women. If it's not your lifestyle choice why care?

BiologicalRobot · 22/04/2025 15:41

So a man is demanding his support humans (ie women) to do his dirty work of harassing and bullying females? Including young girls?

Wow. Just another cesspit man shouting out how much he hates women. Bravo.

LonginesPrime · 22/04/2025 15:41

You could quote para 221 of the SC ruling:

Moreover, women living in the male gender could also be excluded under paragraph 28 without this
amounting to gender reassignment discrimination. This might be considered proportionate where reasonable objection is taken to their presence, for example, because the gender reassignment process has given them a masculine appearance or attributes to which reasonable objection might be taken in the context of the women-only service being provided.

Gettingbysomehow · 22/04/2025 15:40

I was on tiktok earlier and asked why suffragette statues were defaced. One of them said, "because they were the ultimate rascists". I've heard it all now.

AcquadiP · 22/04/2025 15:39

Dear God, these people are pathetic.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 22/04/2025 15:38

Not seeing the problem, really. They're female, they've got a right to be in female spaces.

I don't think they owe TW anything, though. Why would it be their job to waste their time being disruptive because the males feel sad/angry?