Bridget Philipson- TW should use toilets according to biological Sex.

The feeling is mutual.

Excellent!

Surely since the ruling just confirmed that woman meant biological ie as they are now claiming ‘nothings changed’ any efforts to bring in any legislation will be taking away women’s rights. They’re on a sticky wicket and they know it.

I’m all for third spaces I have been for a while and not as some people suggest that Third space being an accessible toilet.

Yea, I fear I was premature in my elation as I also see he didn't actually force out the "human" either. And looking online he said a couple of years ago "women are adult females" and we all know what change was seen off the back of that (nothing good for women).

Because saying "trans women are vulnerable and marginalised" isn't working anymore.

I met Bridget Phillipson last year and talked to her about women's rights and she seemed on side with women and seemed to understand the main points we've been pressing for years. Obviously, she's a politician and very good at feigning interest — but those MPs who are GI supporters tend to make their feelings very clear. I was surprised to see BP fudging recently in an interview, but I imagine an instruction had been sent out to all ministers and those likely to be asked about it to waffle until the Supreme Court ruling had been delivered. She's been given the job of dealing with the toilets and changing rooms and generally saying the Supreme Court has spoken and this is the law. I bet Wes Streeting is furious: he really gets how important this is for women and LGB people.

Starmer's apparently just appeared on Sky news and done a minimising 'nothing to see here, nothing's changed, it was all always in the Equality Act' number. I haven't seen it myself. I don't think it occurs to him how cowardly it looks that he hasn't stood up for women, but I imagine he was terrified at the idea of being asked about what's happened to the 0.1% of the population who used to be women with penises and are now men. He's a lawyer and a bureaucrat: everything will have been gamed and this will have come out as the safest way to acknowledge the ruling.

Labour brought in the GRA. I agree with @Felinnefineon the rest

He didn’t quite manage to get the word biological out of his mouth though.

Come on Keir, stand in front of the bathroom mirror and practice

” B B B B “

good start

” Bio, bio, bio”

getting there

”Biol. biol biol. Can you get me a drink of water please”

here you go.

“Biology! Biology! Biology ! By George I think I’ve got it.”

not quite Keir. Not quite. Let’s go back to the start, try not to overthink it, imagine you are reading out election promises……….. they fall out of your mouth quite easily even though you don’t actually believe them either.

Maybe people who feel as @autumn1610does should therefore campaign for third spaces? Assuming they’re more comfortable with mixed sex. Or maybe see if they can make a strong case for loos to be treated as sports are starting to be. In sports there is a clear a legitimate reason for single sex events for women, from which TM who take testosterone are excluded because it’s doping, and no reason why the ‘men’s’ can’t become an Open category.

Surely an occasional bit of embarrassment is worth it for ensuring general safety in womens single sex spaces?

Why has everyone suddenly become so worried about butch women and transmen?

At least women are far less likely to become violent if challenged.

Have you got in touch with Sex Matters? they may be able to help advise.

Because they're usually very obviously female when you see them in person rather than a filtered cropped photo.

I’ve been interested that since this announcement there’s been lots of talk about transmen with many calling in to LBC. Normally it’s all about transwomen but since they think they can use the transmen in women’s toilet as a gotcha they’ve latched on to it.

Whilst technically transmen should use the women’s I suspect this won’t happen. Let’s face it transmen pass very well and men are not at threat from women (transmen). Trans women on the other hand don’t pass and show an equal id not higher risk to women.

It must piss the TRAs off sooo much that they know transmen pass and pretty much nothing will change for them.

That's where 'third spaces' need to fill the void. They could already have existed if the will had been there ...rather than spending vast sums of emotional and aggressive energy campaigning for the aboltion of sex, and of common sense.

Ha ha have they. Time for Bridget to show her metal. What a shame children are getting stuck in the middle. 😑

Now she needs to have a word with NEU...who have stated their intent to defy the ruling - in schools.

Eye roll. I’m sick and tired of responding to incoherent comments like this.

On Good Morning Britain she was explicit that a transwomen must use the men's toilets.

Because some are very male presenting? Muscular and beards etc so how would you know without making a tit out of yourself that they are biologically female? When I’m in there with someone who is presenting very male?

Love this! It's what should have been happening all along - men expanding the bandwidth of what being a man looks and feels like, and being accepting of differences that don't adhere to traditional notions of masculinity. Just like women have done for decades.

Think we all recognise that he's got egg on his face after his previous nonsensical comments (kind description) about women and openly presiding over a party intent on bullying sex realist women out of it.

I've no doubt he'll be asked about this and no doubt he'll robotically respond with today's version of reality. Suspect expecting an emotionally intelligent response from him is too much .

I didn't notice Labour were in power for the last fourteen years.

Shouldn't you be calling on the Tories to apologise?

To be fair she's been one of many swearing up is down for so long it's going to take a while for her to get her head round the fact that the words she uses now have to change.

But at least she came down on the actual right side of history for once.

Really? Why?