Cardiff March for trans liberation, today

The Socialist Workers must have quite a sizable cottage industry which involves making signs and banners and transporting them to demos. I Used to live on a peace camp in the early 1980s...and SWP and WRP members would always turn up in their shemags. Shemag wearing has always been a thing in radical left circles, even when people have had no real clue about the nature and history of 'the conflict'. It's just part of the uniform.

Friend of Mumsnet Joss Prior circulated the version that all the TRAs used to claim Maria was the aggressor.

I can imagine. Way back when Maria McLachlan was assaulted in Hyde Park, I watched the video footage several times (the unedited one, there was one circulated which had been carefully edited to make it look as if this small, slight 60-yo with osteoporosis had gone up to the 6'+ trans-identified 20something male and attacked him when in fact two or more young men clearly attacked her and took her camera, which she tried to get back, so one of them punched her).

There was a telling bit where another hulking male got really angry with one of the young women present (on their side). I've no idea what he was saying but the body language and facial expression was unmistakeable. I'd guess that the young woman had committed the unforgivable sin of expressing reservations about the wisdom of stealing, perhaps even shown some signs of concern and compassion for Maria. Well, that would have had to be dealt with. The cowed look on the young woman's face has stayed with me. The way she looked down at the ground while this brute harangued her. I'd like to think it was a wake up call for her and/or some of the other young women present.

I'll send you a PM

In Welsh perhaps? Would anyone notice?
Caniatáu i ddynion stripio chwilio menywod'
'Rhowch dreiswyr mewn carchardai benywaidd'
'Gadewch i ddynion gystadlu mewn chwaraeon menywod'
'Ni ddylai meddygon gwrywaidd fod angen gofyn am ganiatâd cyn archwilio menywod yn agos'
'Gwrthod gofal o'r un rhyw i fenywod anabl'

@Igneococcus, I take that back - if they’re super obscure, that could be outing. I shall just imagine all the possible obscure composers you could have named them after…

Goldie Lookin Chain have a number, released as a single in 2004, called "Your Mother's Got a Penis" - which was criticised for being "offensive to transsexuals".

Some people have no sense of humour.

They normally have some bellowing men leading the chanting.

They can get free tampons or pads at any library in Wales.

We get hurt for free in Wales… if it is available that is.

I don't think I've ever been to a protest where they've basically given a handout of every chant they've got. Maybe that's normal but I've never experienced it. I hope they'll have a teacher at the front of the class in case they forget the words.

Exactly.

Who is going to pay for the free hormones if we've dismantled the state?

Tossers.

That 'HRT, HRT...' chant sounds like Goldie Lookin Chain, they have a song called HRT. They're Welsh too, so perfect for Cardiff 😆

"No borders, No nations- trans liberation!"

This has to be my favourite. Sounds like a slogan for a transports company.

The martyrs stuff is appalling: they are obtusely stupid people, don't have a clue what they are saying.

Their testicles?

Now I need to know what your cats’ names are!

Our cats get named after obscure composers, obscure composers could be my Mastermind specialist subject.

Ooo, first obscure composer reference of the day! Ding ding, prize for @Igneococcus!

Blunt, succinct, bang on the point.

Good article which spells it out.

I remember the Toten Hosen version of this as well.

Not as catchy as the song "If a person has a penis he's a man." terfytunes.wordpress.com/2019/11/28/the-transjenner-song-if-youre-happy-and-you-know-it-clap-your-hands/

If a person has a penis, he’s a man
If a person has a penis, he’s a man
If he doesn’t want to lose it
Even though he doesn’t use it
If a person has a penis, he’s a man

If a person has a nutsack, he’s a man
If a person has a nutsack, he’s a man
He can tuck it to conceal it
Let it dangle and reveal it
If a person has a nutsack, he’s a man

If he amputates his bits, he’s still a man
If he grows a pair of tits, he’s still a man
If the chromosome’s a “Y”
HE WILL ALWAYS BE A GUY ……..
If he isn’t born a woman, he’s a man.

Sarah Ditum saying it as it is, with a matter of factness that does nothing to disguise the horror of the behaviour of these men.

Interestingly, we seem to have gone way beyond questioning the concept of men saying they are women. What does it mean for a man to say he lives as a woman? Why does he say it, what is gender dysphoria?

It appears to be just a gimme that these are men, presenting as men, acting like men, and just demanding that women roll over because we have something they want. Roll over, or else, in fact.

We seem to have shifted from these poor people, oh for fuck's sake just do it, luv.

And the supporters and politicians letting them do it, haven't even noticed all the gloves have come off, and these men are just standing there with their naked misogyny oozing from every pore.

It's almost as though misogyny is so normal to some people, they totally fail to detect it, even when it reeks.

Fantastic, articulate, article, thank you.

Ah... I was referring to If The Kids Are United.

As you were...

Igneococcus · Today 06:12

Ooh, I haven't listened to the Fred Rzewski variations on the song for ages, that will be nice with a cup of tea this morning.

I don't know of him...

Let’s see how many of them actually turn out shall we?