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Maggie Chapman MSP slanders Supreme Court

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Seriestwo · 21/04/2025 13:54

Maggie Chapman has publicly accused the Supreme Court of transphobia. Any lawyers know if this is contempt of court?
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ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 09:47

Oh my word, she's doubling down. Criticising courts for being racist.

ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 09:45

She seems to be surrounded by flying crosses. Bit odd. She is not even slightly addressing the issues at hand. She sounds utterly unhinged. Now going on about abortion law. WTF?!

Maggie Chapman MSP slanders Supreme Court
ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 09:44

Maggie on the video starts by whanging on about trans people

ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 09:40

She should step down, whatever the vote. It's absurd that she's in such a position of power while making such comments. (edit - this is just my view, not Tess White's!)

Tess White currently laying out the motion, including the Faculty of Advocates' letter.

ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 09:37

Here we go.

ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 09:36

Although item 2 may preclude us being able to watch that bit:

  1. Decision on taking business in private: The Committee will decide whether to take items 4 and 5 in private.
ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 09:35

Worth checking out item 5 on today's agenda, too:

  1. For Women Scotland Ltd (Appellant) v The Scottish Ministers (Respondent): The Committee will consider its approach to scrutiny of the implications of the Supreme Court Judgment.
ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 09:11

Currently a Bill going through Scotparl. Although that doesn't necessarily mean much.

https://www.parliament.scot/bills-and-laws/bills/s6/scottish-parliament-recall-and-removal-of-members-bill

ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 09:10

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/power-to-sack-msps-through-recall-petition-needed-in-wake-of-michael-matheson-row-ian-blackford-says-4658100

'In Westminster, recall petitions allow voters to remove elected officials in certain circumstances. Former SNP MP Margaret Ferrier ultimately lost her Rutherglen and Hamilton seat in a by-election in October last year after a recall petition was triggered, linked to her 30-day suspension for making a trip to Westminster in breach of Covid regulations.'

'the ability to sack MSPs through a recall petition is “highly desirable” with Scottish Parliament governance in urgent need of reform, Ian Blackford has claimed.'

ItisntOver · 29/04/2025 09:07

SinnerBoy · 28/04/2025 22:31

Can they de-list her at election time? MPs (MSPs) can't be sacked, there has to be a vote, with 10 of the constituency going for a by election and I think that's only if there's been a criminal conviction.

So many of these guidelines presuppose integrity, honour, dignity and some semblance of an intention to uphold Nolan principles.

ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 09:07

There goes my morning! Thanks, Betsy.

ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 07:25

SinnerBoy · 28/04/2025 22:31

Can they de-list her at election time? MPs (MSPs) can't be sacked, there has to be a vote, with 10 of the constituency going for a by election and I think that's only if there's been a criminal conviction.

Really?! Holy moly.

Seriestwo · 29/04/2025 01:01

the committee meeting is tomorrow. I hope it’s streamed.

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SinnerBoy · 28/04/2025 22:31

Can they de-list her at election time? MPs (MSPs) can't be sacked, there has to be a vote, with 10 of the constituency going for a by election and I think that's only if there's been a criminal conviction.

Seriestwo · 28/04/2025 14:37

I am very concerned about the intellectual resources of some MSPs, but I think I am more concerned about how hard it is to get rid of a list MSP.

i suspect Maggie might be tricky to be rid of.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/04/2025 11:36

CorruptedCauldron · 28/04/2025 10:22

https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/chapmans-outburst-was-dangerous-donald-trump-ish-nonsense-euan-mccolm-5101193

Interesting and moving article from Euan McColm here. He talks about his own childhood experience of fleeing domestic abuse. It goes without saying that Chapman’s politics are nothing like Trump’s - but I understand why Euan draws a parallel. It’s the recklessness.

Thank you for that link. That was a very powerful piece.

I have no doubt that Chapman believes herself to be on the side of the angels but the reality is that she’s an enabler of angry men behind verbal and physical attacks on women who reject the idea someone may change their sex. To Maggie Chapman and other privileged politicians and campaigners, the problems of others are to be viewed in the abstract and solutions are to be found in the strict ideologies to which they subscribe. These powerful people simply cannot, I believe, conceive of dangerous circumstances from which they could not extricate themselves. Their support for the dismantling of women’s rights and their contempt for the principles of safeguarding are fomented in a bubble of back-slapping do-goodery, where to question their beliefs if to be a hateful bigot. To a colossal ego, add the failure of both imagination and compassion and you’ve got yourself a Maggie Chapman. And you may keep her.

fromorbit · 28/04/2025 11:28

Pressure building will the SNP and Labour members stand up for the rule of law.

MSPs 'have a duty' to sack Maggie Chapman for Supreme Court rant or risk wrath of women
The Scottish Green member faces being booted off the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee after saying judges were guilty of 'bigotry'
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/msps-have-duty-sack-maggie-35116941
First Minister John Swinney also said he thought her comments were "wrong".
Asked about Ms Chapman's comments on Friday, Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar said he was "relaxed with people having strong views" but added: "...when we get into the place of attacking the judiciary, attacking law officers, attacking judges, undermining the rule of law and calling people bigoted or racist or sexist based on judgments made on the evidence of the law, I think that takes us down a very, very dangerous route."

MSPs 'have a duty' to sack Maggie Chapman for Supreme Court rant

The Scottish Green member faces being booted off the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee after saying judges were guilty of 'bigotry'

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/msps-have-duty-sack-maggie-35116941

CorruptedCauldron · 28/04/2025 10:22

https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/chapmans-outburst-was-dangerous-donald-trump-ish-nonsense-euan-mccolm-5101193

Interesting and moving article from Euan McColm here. He talks about his own childhood experience of fleeing domestic abuse. It goes without saying that Chapman’s politics are nothing like Trump’s - but I understand why Euan draws a parallel. It’s the recklessness.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/04/2025 09:37

Good, good.

ArabellaScott · 28/04/2025 09:36

Vote tomorrow on whether she should be removed from her position on the Equalities committee.

I'd be surprised if this didn't go further and raise questions about her ability to sit as an MSP, really.

fromorbit · 28/04/2025 03:22

Article lays into Chapman brings out more horror stories:

Maggie Chapman is not worth lowering your standards for. She is a political horror show who would embarrass a parliament more worthy of the name.
In response to the October 7 attack on Israel, she shared a tweet from another X user that read: ‘Don’t let the Western media fool you into thinking it’s terrorism, this is decolonisation.’ October 7 saw Palestinian terrorists slaughter 1,200 Israelis, including children, while also raping women, kidnapping babies, and shooting family pets. Chapman later expressed ‘regret’ that her soft-peddling of the worst single-day massacre of Jews since the Shoah caused ‘significant upset and anger for some’.
She supported a 2022 Scottish Green motion to suspend ties with the Green Party of England and Wales over its supposed ‘transphobic rhetoric and conduct’.
Asked whether the age limit should be lowered to allow eight-year-olds to change their sex legally, she said: ‘I think in principle we should be exploring that.’
When Pam Gosal objected to LGBT Youth Scotland promoting ‘trans ideology’ in primary schools, Chapman said the Tory MSP’s complaint was ‘categorically more of a risk to children’.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14653315/STEPHEN-DAISLEY-Maggie-Chapman-political-horror-embarrass-parliament-worthy-name.html

STEPHEN DAISLEY: Maggie Chapman is a political horror show

I have spent longer than I care to remember documenting the ineptitudes and inadequacies of the Scottish Parliament.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14653315/STEPHEN-DAISLEY-Maggie-Chapman-political-horror-embarrass-parliament-worthy-name.html

Seriestwo · 25/04/2025 08:07

That’s the problem, her levels of understanding are rhe same as the twitterers. That’s not acceptable

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SinnerBoy · 25/04/2025 02:01

Datun · 22/04/2025 15:35

she seemed to think individual people could give evidence

Our old chums White and McCloud pretended that that was the case and whined online about how wrong and unfair it was. Wor Maggie's rather hard of thinking, so perhaps we shouldn't blame her for believing that?

Nah, she's a legislator and should know better.

TWETMIRF · 24/04/2025 22:49

It makes you wonder if she simply identifies as having them.