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Molto · 21/04/2025 16:49

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 21/04/2025 16:28

I'm disappointed to see Nikesh Shukla on that list. I have a copy of The Good Immigrant.

Surely, he can understand that a woman can no more identify out of sex-based oppression than someone visibly brown can identify out of racial oppression? And a man trying to pretend that he's a woman is as offensive to women as blackface is to Black people?

Some people in the arts industry do well because they are breathtakingly creative and hard-working with their immense talent. Other people do well because they work hard at making connections with social media figures with big follower numbers, then build a career off pleasing those followers.

StepawayfromtheLindors · 21/04/2025 16:46

DH and I spend a lot of money annually on books, especially at Christmas (probably thousands between us), and are very regular theatregoers.

Thanks for sharing this list - I will make sure we don’t contribute a penny to these misogynists.

IsItTheBlackOneOrTheRedOne · 21/04/2025 16:45

Igneococcus · 21/04/2025 12:02

Not surprised at all Nicola is on it, Sister Michael would roll her eyes but not convinced about the actress who plays her would too.

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You are correct, she is a fully fledged TRA.

Swallowdoubleandrunamile · 21/04/2025 16:43

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 12:12

Billy Bragg is identifying as a writer, now?

GrinGrinGrin

QuietlyLurkingintheCorner · 21/04/2025 16:42

PriOn1 · 21/04/2025 16:14

Erin Hunter is on there! Erin Hunter doesn’t actually exist…🤔

Gillian Philip, one of the former Erin Hunters would undoubtedly not agree!

See also 'Holly Webb', 'author' of the Rainbow Magic series, my 7 year old daughter's favourite books. But it's a conglomerate of writers who come and go, so who put the name in? The publisher? Or did all the current writers get together and agree to sign as one? Bloody cheat either way.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 21/04/2025 16:42

Do we know who actually organised the letter?

Molto · 21/04/2025 16:41

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 21/04/2025 16:18

I am also 99% sure that at least a handful of names who I know quite vaguely on that list are highly, highly GC.

So why on earth have they signed it?

Book sales, album sales, contracts, not wanting to fall out with your trans child...

socialdilemmawhattodo · 21/04/2025 16:41

BlueEyedBogWitch · 21/04/2025 12:03

No real surprises on there. The usual intellectual lightweights and luvvies.

Did you recognise many names? I only recognised a couple of comedians and the dr who writer. I was starting halfway through the list to think they'd just made up names on the spot.

Pudmyboy · 21/04/2025 16:40

Screamingabdabz · 21/04/2025 12:22

The younger generation have not earned enough stripes to have a fully rounded opinion on this imo. Wait until ‘Melissa’ has a baby, and her daughter has to use toilets or be examined medically, or gets fitted for her first bra. Or maybe she has problems with labour or childbirth…And wait until Melissa experiences gynaecological or hormonal issues that only females experience or she herself experiences a lifetime of male entitlement and arrogance and dismissal. God forbid she ever experiences first hand male violence… I wonder if she’ll be so idealistic about it all then?

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Or her daughter loses a place in a sport she loves to a boy, and loses college funding as a consequence

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 21/04/2025 16:40

book sales perchance?

But it makes them look a bit thick (especially getting the date wrong), why would you want to read a book they've written?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/04/2025 16:36

Ohyoudodoyou · 21/04/2025 13:48

I think this one is a great writer 😉
Jesuis O. Mofobique

I don't think all the names are being vetted. Say this one out loud.

Pudmyboy · 21/04/2025 16:35

A very long list but I recognise just a handful, eg sara pascoe and robin Ince. All the rest: no idea! Are they all fantasy authors?

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 16:32

PriOn1 · 21/04/2025 16:14

Erin Hunter is on there! Erin Hunter doesn’t actually exist…🤔

Gillian Philip, one of the former Erin Hunters would undoubtedly not agree!

How odd.

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 16:31

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 21/04/2025 16:18

I am also 99% sure that at least a handful of names who I know quite vaguely on that list are highly, highly GC.

So why on earth have they signed it?

Have the names been verified as being added by their actual owners?

RoyalCorgi · 21/04/2025 16:31

Some of those names are ones already recognised as being full-on TRA - I've already been through the disappointment once (Russell T Davies, James Acaster, Josie Long etc.) Plus a whole bunch of names I don't recognise. But I AM disappointed in Mark Haddon, who I thought was one of the good guys. A BIT disappointed in Patrick Gale, who I previously liked, though I'm not quite as surprised as I was at Haddon.

And you know, the letter is just shit. Full of crap like "this Supreme Court hearing took place on shaky legal ground". Well, no, it didn't. That's just idiotic. How many of them have actually read the judgement?

There's more than 1,300 of them. How could so many supposedly clever people be so stupid? The one consolation is we have the receipts.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 21/04/2025 16:28

I'm disappointed to see Nikesh Shukla on that list. I have a copy of The Good Immigrant.

Surely, he can understand that a woman can no more identify out of sex-based oppression than someone visibly brown can identify out of racial oppression? And a man trying to pretend that he's a woman is as offensive to women as blackface is to Black people?

Mistyglade · 21/04/2025 16:28

These trans activists are starting to give me a real guttural sense of fear, does anyone else feel genuinely scared of them? I’ve never felt frightened of anything before but this is all so unhinged I’m worried what they might try.

IrritatedEarthling · 21/04/2025 16:23

I'm a huge reader and I think I recognise two names.

🤷‍♀️

SoloSofa24 · 21/04/2025 16:21

NotEvenTheRainHasSuchSmallHands · 21/04/2025 13:40

I know several of the signers well and I'm incredibly disappointed. These are smart, highly educated, critically thinking women. I can only imagine that they haven't done much research into the issues and are #beingkind, but that's disappointing, too.

Everyone involved will likely be a professional writer of some description, by the way. There are a great many jobbing writers out there who you've never heard of.

They are definitely not all 'professional writers' - one name I recognised is a friend of one of my DC, and is still an undergraduate student who has co-written one small poetry pamphlet, as far as I am aware. I am sure there are plenty more of them along those lines.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 21/04/2025 16:20

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 15:18

2020 had the open letter in support of JK Rowling.

I can't recall how many original signatories there were, but it ended up as a letter with over 30k signing it.

www.ipetitions.com/petition/in-solidarity-with-jk-rowling

People are still signing it.

godmum56 · 21/04/2025 16:19

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 21/04/2025 16:18

I am also 99% sure that at least a handful of names who I know quite vaguely on that list are highly, highly GC.

So why on earth have they signed it?

book sales perchance?

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 21/04/2025 16:18

I am also 99% sure that at least a handful of names who I know quite vaguely on that list are highly, highly GC.

So why on earth have they signed it?

PriOn1 · 21/04/2025 16:14

Erin Hunter is on there! Erin Hunter doesn’t actually exist…🤔

Gillian Philip, one of the former Erin Hunters would undoubtedly not agree!

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 21/04/2025 16:12

Forgettingblue · 21/04/2025 13:14

I love that bloke holding the ' Feminism is the refusal to define a woman' placard.

Imagine that boldly proclaiming, ' I'm a bit thick, me.'

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Feminism isn't the refusal to define women. It's the insistence that women are people.