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a list of men or companies who have stood up for us

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siucra · 20/04/2025 19:17

Like so many here, I have been disheartened by the lack of support from so many famous men, those I liked and or admired are now and will forever be in my blacklist. Same for companies.
This whole experience has been so hard and I thank all the incredible women who carried on and spoke for us...
However, who are the men who were on our side? Andrew Neil? Piers Morgan? There aren't many but would love to hear some names of those who put women first...

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frenchnoodle · 21/04/2025 15:18

Hwi · 21/04/2025 15:15

How odd and hypocritical not to mention Donald Trump on here - it is shameful, MNers! Yes, let us not allow facts get in the way of the Trump Derangement Syndrome progression.

Tell us you've not read through the thread without telling us you have not read through the thread.

Some people would call that stupidity.

Greyskybluesky · 21/04/2025 15:17

Hwi · 21/04/2025 15:15

How odd and hypocritical not to mention Donald Trump on here - it is shameful, MNers! Yes, let us not allow facts get in the way of the Trump Derangement Syndrome progression.

I don't understand this comment. Trump has been mentioned.

Lovelyview · 21/04/2025 15:16

TheAutumnCrow · 21/04/2025 11:34

Liberal Voice for Women (LVW) is the Lib Dem GC group fighting back against the ideological madness consuming the main party.

There are men who support LVW, and I thank them.

They also have been targeted by many other Lib Dem members, some of whom have characterised LVW as ‘lice’ who require eradication. The Lib Dem complaints process about this has proved useless.

The Lib Dem Party is NOT a tame alternative to the Tories or Labour.

I did an online questionnaire about which party you support based on their policies and it said Lib Dem. I have always supported proportional representation. However, I obviously couldn't vote Lib Dem because of their blind adherence to twaw. I am also concerned about pr now - because of how a loon like Maggie Chapman appears to be lodged in the Scottish parliament despite not actually having a constituency. I admire those within the Lib Dems who are trying to reverse the tanker but I can't see it happening any time soon. Thanks for not just walking away though.

Hwi · 21/04/2025 15:15

How odd and hypocritical not to mention Donald Trump on here - it is shameful, MNers! Yes, let us not allow facts get in the way of the Trump Derangement Syndrome progression.

siucra · 21/04/2025 15:07

Felinnefine · 21/04/2025 14:38

Just found this again from 2017. A man who is the opposite of the wonderful men on this thread. Owen Jones. Where are you now, you odious little punk.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/15/trans-backlash-anti-gay-zealotry-section-28-homophobia

Horrible man. The Guardian is a truly awful paper.

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FKAT · 21/04/2025 15:05

A few names that haven't been mentioned:
Scott Capurro - the gay US comedian who lives in the UK
Jack Dee
Daley Thompson - he was at the WPUK Sharron Davies / Emma Hilton evening back in the day and is a long term supporter
My DH - who works in an industry riddled with genderism and pushes back on it at every opportunity

LlynTegid · 21/04/2025 15:00

Lottapianos · 20/04/2025 22:22

'I heard BoJo unexpectedly speaking some sense on the matter in the HoC towards the end of his tenure.'

I would put him in the same box as Trump - absolutely couldn't give a crap about women, but will say anything that benefits himself and makes him look tough

Agreed. And he could have done something about it whilst Prime Minister, but did not.

He has treated women abysmally in his private life, and that's just what we know. Never mind the number of women widowed or who lost a parent or grandparent because of inactions in March 2020 over Covid.

Greyskybluesky · 21/04/2025 14:49

Yay for the dads!

Waitwhat23 · 21/04/2025 14:47

My husband who has always got it and will point out articles and things he thinks I might find interesting. Who said 'but that's unfair to women' from the start.

My Dad, another one who got it early on and has been vocal in his distaste for the abuse meted out against women.

VeraWangTea · 21/04/2025 14:42

My Dad 😁

siucra · 21/04/2025 14:34

TheaBrandt1 · 21/04/2025 14:29

Relieved about tom and dominic. I won’t listen to all male podcasts any more but they are the exception to my self imposed rule!

Don’t want to derail thread but when you find a man who is fully on board with being GC, you can relax. Often you wonder do they secretly hate us (or are just thick). With Dominic and Tom, you can just enjoy their company.

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TheaBrandt1 · 21/04/2025 14:29

Relieved about tom and dominic. I won’t listen to all male podcasts any more but they are the exception to my self imposed rule!

Seainasive · 21/04/2025 14:28

Very rarely mentioned here but The Economist has been consistently excellent on this issue.

TheaBrandt1 · 21/04/2025 14:27

My Dh couldn’t compute what I was telling him about people saying men were actually women until he read it in the Economist. He always thought it was absolutely mental.

He is also deeply suspicious of the motives of men he doesn’t know and automatically as a default believes women over men and as a father of dds was never going to get on board with self ID.

Arran2024 · 21/04/2025 14:23

MrsJRHartley · 20/04/2025 22:18

I heard BoJo unexpectedly speaking some sense on the matter in the HoC towards the end of his tenure.

During the local elections in 2022 I think, I had a local Conservative candidate come round canvassing - with Carrie Johnson (plus baby).

I went full terf on both of them. Of course she was regarded as in the tra camp but I hoped she would fill BoJo in on the "awful" woman she met. She was polite, didnt challenge me - her colleague was very interested.

siucra · 21/04/2025 14:19

It’s wonderful to hear so many names. And especially Dominic and Tom who I love completely. And Robert Webb. But all of you with good men in your lives, it’s wonderful. I wonder if there are any men who are now listening to women and are going to apologise? We got it wrong, we are such incredible fools and we realise that we are total mysoginists and we are ashamed. James O’Brien? Come on. You’re an intelligent man.

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Everythingwillbeokay · 21/04/2025 14:13

Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook have no truck with all the madness

Greyskybluesky · 21/04/2025 13:43

England Hockey

Friartruckster · 21/04/2025 13:40

Ilovetowander · 21/04/2025 10:21

I admit to not having read through the whole thread but just wanted to say - my husband and all the other husbands/partners/boyfriends who have stood up locally whilst not famous they also have an impact (although more limited.) There are many more who I think will be more willing to call this issue our from now on.

Dripping water shapes rock. It’s the grass root opinion, quietly, thoughtfully and persistently stated that gently enters into the madness and people can no longer ignore.

Dunkou · 21/04/2025 13:34

Interesting list. A lot of amazing men, and a fair share of deplorable. All mainly older. I guess older men have less to lose, they have made their careers, and were around in the 80s when being fluid with how you dressed was pretty ordinary and didn’t mean you thought you had changed sex. And the deplorable men generally wouldn’t give a shit about any controversy about their views and speaking the truth, so they are bound to be heavily represented on the list.

Grayson Perry. I don’t think he would be seen as quite such the loveable eccentric if he wasn’t in a long-lived marriage with an intelligent woman. If he was single and publicly indulging his fetish he wouldn’t be tolerated to much.

I don’t have any famous men to add to the list. Just my boss, who some years ago made a completely sensible comment on Twitter supporting women’s sports being female only. We don’t work for a related sector, and it was a personal tweet. He was high up in the company and told by the board that he had to publicly apologise and retract. He said he would resign rather than do that. They backed down, but I do believe he would have resigned.

Barbadossunset · 21/04/2025 13:33

but these guys refused to compromise their integrity.

They were very brave, considering the consequences they faced.
Will everyone who was sacked for gender critical views be a) reinstated (if they want to be) and b) receive financial compensation?

Greyskybluesky · 21/04/2025 13:22

The male academics I know who believe in truth, rational thought, reality, biological fact and women's rights. One in particular who was at serious risk of losing his job for stating facts. If people want to pay nearly £10K a year for their kids to be taught in a woke echo chamber then that's up to them, but these guys refused to compromise their integrity.

Zelle70 · 21/04/2025 13:11

These are not celebrities but all the men in the SEEN groups across the nation.
My seen group is a 50% men/women ratio.

LlynTegid · 21/04/2025 12:57

The late Pope Francis. Very clear about biological sex not gender identity. Whatever else you think of his other views and the Catholic church in general.

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