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a list of men or companies who have stood up for us

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siucra · 20/04/2025 19:17

Like so many here, I have been disheartened by the lack of support from so many famous men, those I liked and or admired are now and will forever be in my blacklist. Same for companies.
This whole experience has been so hard and I thank all the incredible women who carried on and spoke for us...
However, who are the men who were on our side? Andrew Neil? Piers Morgan? There aren't many but would love to hear some names of those who put women first...

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Eggtoastie · 20/04/2025 22:31

James Dreyfus, though he's probably already been mentioned

AInightingale · 20/04/2025 22:29

I remember when Ian McEwan made some statements criticising gender self-identification some years ago, then crumbled completely when he was challenged about it. Same as Stephen King. Pathetic cowardly men both.

Coincidentally, or perhaps not, I've always found McEwan's portrayals of female characters to be one-dimensional and shit.

NoFineBalance · 20/04/2025 22:29

paisley256 · 20/04/2025 22:26

Marilyn has been very vocal about keeping men out of our spaces. He said on X this week that Boy George hung up on him a few days ago cos he refused to stop saying stuff about trans women and he basically said Marilyn was ruining his career by doing this. Says it all really.

Pretty sure Boy George ruined his career by handcuffing an escort to a radiator, beating him and going to jail for it.

Mmmnotsure · 20/04/2025 22:28

It's striking how very few companies anyone can think of

saltandvinegarchipsticks · 20/04/2025 22:26

elgreco · 20/04/2025 20:55

Robert Webb

I posted a tweet years ago to say how disappointed I was with Robert Webb calling out Mermaids. That was before I did my critical thinking and I still feel bad about that now.

paisley256 · 20/04/2025 22:26

Marilyn has been very vocal about keeping men out of our spaces. He said on X this week that Boy George hung up on him a few days ago cos he refused to stop saying stuff about trans women and he basically said Marilyn was ruining his career by doing this. Says it all really.

senua · 20/04/2025 22:26

siucra · 20/04/2025 19:50

Yes to all above. And Justin Webb was absolutely brilliant - especially as Nick Robison was utterly disgusting about it all. Will never forgive him.

When was this?Confused AFAIK Nick Robinson is firmly onside. He and Justin are a double-team.

Chungai · 20/04/2025 22:25

Pringlebeak · 20/04/2025 20:55

Well he's a massive blowhard and that's obviously not a nice thing to say. But perhaps actions speak louder than words in this case.

Actions like the alleged multiple sex offences against women? Or reinstating the Global Gag Rule?

How you can say he stands up for women when he's been found liable for sexual abuse in a court, and that's before we even get onto the other stuff...

Well I have no idea how your thinking works, but I'm struggling to believe anyone who really cares about women could be so unfathomably narrow minded.

Hwi · 20/04/2025 22:24

Dave Chapelle

Lottapianos · 20/04/2025 22:22

'I heard BoJo unexpectedly speaking some sense on the matter in the HoC towards the end of his tenure.'

I would put him in the same box as Trump - absolutely couldn't give a crap about women, but will say anything that benefits himself and makes him look tough

SageHoney · 20/04/2025 22:21

Kenny MacAskill - former Scottish Justice Secretary and later (SNP and then Alba) UK MP. He made it very clear that he does not speak for feminists or women or include himself in those categories, but that "justice" has a meaning and has value. And "justice" applies to all humans equally, including women - however controversial or risible the hot takes of the day may find that concept.

MrsJRHartley · 20/04/2025 22:18

I heard BoJo unexpectedly speaking some sense on the matter in the HoC towards the end of his tenure.

Panama2 · 20/04/2025 22:16

Isn’t it incredibly sad how quickly and easily women were thrown under the bus.

The protests today,saying terms should be hung, women threatened with death isn’t that hate speech where is our protection why isn’t there an outcry against these threats by the authorities?

HollieHock · 20/04/2025 22:16

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cariadlet · 20/04/2025 22:14

I wouldn't normally include a TIM on a list of male allies but I've just seen a great interview which Miranda Yardley did for LBC in the wake of the Supreme Court judgement and it reminded me that he's always been GC.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BrTzpLyo2/

HollieHock · 20/04/2025 22:14

CrossPurposes · 20/04/2025 19:55

Oliver Brown from the Telegraph

He has been incredible. What amazing writing.

HollieHock · 20/04/2025 22:12

siucra · 20/04/2025 19:38

Good old Marilyn didn't let us down. I suspected that Boy George was on our side but didn't say anything.

Sadly, Boy George, is on the side of men with womanz feelz. Huge disappointment.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 20/04/2025 22:11

Bruce Dickinson (singer of Iron Maiden) - made it very clear on several occasions he thought it was a load of bollocks.. years ago he said something about women should support trans people -someone then clearly handed his arse to him on a plate and he changed his tune. I actually got kicked off an unofficial fan site because I said I agreed with him.

EdithStourton · 20/04/2025 22:10

PhatGurlSlim · 20/04/2025 22:07

I wish I had not read this thread. While I welcome the recent ruling I absolutely abhor the battle that ensued around it and I can't see the value in making such a list. I don't think men who supported the idea that TWAW are anti feminist or are not allies to women.

I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks TWAW and supports TW in women's spaces and sports has either not the issue through, or doesn't give a shit about women.

The men named on this thread have been clear-sighted and have often had considerable moral courage. Some of them have paid a massive price, personally and financially, for refusing to deny reality and for standing up for women. They deserve our respect.

Some of the other little weasels.... don't.

Hwi · 20/04/2025 22:08

Elifane · 20/04/2025 19:39

Arty Morty
Andrew Doyle
Debbie Hayton
Mr Menno
Duncan Bannatyne
David TC Davis

Andew Doyle - gay and supported us - so not all gay people abandoned us.
Debbie Hayton - fantastic, clever.

NoFineBalance · 20/04/2025 22:07

Craig Lord, swimming/olympic correspondent at the Times, who contributed his name and words to Sharron Davies's book, Unfair Play.

Barbadossunset · 20/04/2025 22:07

Am waiting to see if the foul James O'Brien will ever do a reverse ferret on this.

I am also awaiting this - but I’m not very hopeful.

PhatGurlSlim · 20/04/2025 22:07

I wish I had not read this thread. While I welcome the recent ruling I absolutely abhor the battle that ensued around it and I can't see the value in making such a list. I don't think men who supported the idea that TWAW are anti feminist or are not allies to women.

Treeleaf11 · 20/04/2025 22:04

Chris Tomlinson - former long jumper

NoFineBalance · 20/04/2025 22:03

There were a number of Tory men who stood up for women and girls and the crap being fed to kids via sex ed/pshe during the Parliamentary debate of the Education Bill (that I think was shelved when Boris Johnson resigned). One of them was Peter Bottomley. Wish I could remember the others.

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