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Memories of the last few years of madness

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SuperSleepyBaby · 20/04/2025 13:12

There have been so many issues over the last few years with trans rights clashing with women’s rights… its been fascinating, in a bad way.

some that come to mind:

A man photographed breastfeeding a newborn in a bus - and being used by the BBC to represent mothers for a story

A man running a rape crisis centre while saying he’s a women and telling women users of the service to ‘reframe their trauma’

a man saying he’s a women and being appointed to head a charity for endometriosis.

Male police officers who say they are women being allowed to strip search women.

What else…

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yourhairiswinterfire · 20/04/2025 18:44

The Princess Grace hospital cancelling Teresa Steele's surgery because during pre-op assessments that included intimate swabs, a male nurse in a blonde wig entered the room and lingered there even though he had nothing to do with Teresa's care. When she asked for her care to be same-sex after the incident, the hospital cancelled her surgery and accused her of discriminating against the male intruder.

Because of the the delay, she became very unwell, developed an abscess and her recovery took a lot longer than it should have.

NeverOneBiscuit · 20/04/2025 18:40

Maya Forstater & Robin (“I’ve worked hard at my transition”) Moira White being interviewed on tv. Maya’s face when Robin said he was ‘somatically female’ 🤣 & Robin’s when Maya said yes, I see Robin as a male.

There are so many amazing women to admire & thank for their advocacy over the years. Maya & Helen Joyce are the two that kept me sane; how they retained their sanity in all this madness is astonishing.

Firealarm1414 · 20/04/2025 18:40

Dustmylemonlies · 20/04/2025 18:37

And that awful 'teacher' in Canada with the giant prosthetic breasts...

Pretty sure that person was trolling to prove a point about how ridiculous the whole thing is

spannasaurus · 20/04/2025 18:38

Lloyd Russell Moyle crossing the floor of parliament to intimidate Miriam Cates

And one of his staff calling a baby a fascist

Dustmylemonlies · 20/04/2025 18:37

And that awful 'teacher' in Canada with the giant prosthetic breasts...

Dustmylemonlies · 20/04/2025 18:37

Dr Robert Winston effectively being blacklisted by the BBC for saying biological sex is embedded is our genes.

OvaHere · 20/04/2025 18:35

Jane Fae, extreme porn advocate, who performatively knits on TV and thinks VAWG is the fault of women having 'eggshell skulls'.

SuperSleepyBaby · 20/04/2025 18:35

those strange photos Mermaids had for Trans children - the one taken in a child’s bedroom

the genderbread person

Joe Biden meeting Dylan Mulvaney

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HesSoBadHesGood · 20/04/2025 18:34

FeelingLessTired · 20/04/2025 17:47

RMW popping up was hilarious.

Arse handed on plate. On MN AND the courtroom.

Happy days.

Oh yes! There were happy times amongst the madness.

RMW seemed to have no self awareness at all, and yet we were meant to be impressed? cowed? Even we, the lowly wims, knew that was an astonishingly unprofessional move.

YesYesAllGood · 20/04/2025 18:34

JulesJules · 20/04/2025 18:15

Yes, and pretty sure he was presented as a "housewife" on a piece about the cost of living. He was shown washing up a breast pump.

Yep, that’s it!!

FeelingLessTired · 20/04/2025 18:34

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/04/2025 18:28

Dawn Butler threatening us with the Rozzers.

Oh yes that was terrifying...... ly ridiculous.

Alot of it has been utter surreal kafkaesque shit. But I have had a very great many laughs along the way on Mn with the intelligent, feisty, well-informed and educated women of MN just taking the piss out of it all.

I took annual leave in order to watch alot of the Allison Bailey tribunal in real time. I was in a law firm back then. Another (male) colleague took leave at the same time to watch the Rooney/Vardy trial. We would swap notes on whatsapp.

Ben Cooper's support wren was a highlight.

Plus the haikus.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 20/04/2025 18:30

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/04/2025 18:28

Dawn Butler threatening us with the Rozzers.

Há yes! 😁😁 producing a very memorable thread

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/04/2025 18:28

DeffoNeedANameChange · 20/04/2025 18:21

The fact that The Family Sex Show almost happened (a live theatre show exploring gender and sexuality, which would apparently have been equally appropriate for adults and 5yo children, and which would have included full nudity on stage), and when it didn't happen, the Guardian ran a piece about how frightening cancel culture is.

That would be the cancel culture that they otherwise don’t think exists?

JulesJules · 20/04/2025 18:28

The male boxers in the Olympics.

The BBC and their obsession with drag queens.

Tax payer funded organisations and services total capitulation to this idiocy, then wasting our money on court cases with no accountability, while we also have to crowd fund for the women fighting them.

And most recently, TRAs pissing on the Millicent Fawcett statue and displaying signs calling for women to be burnt alive and/or hanged while the police do nothing

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/04/2025 18:28

Dawn Butler threatening us with the Rozzers.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/04/2025 18:27

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/04/2025 18:26

Day ... Of Being A Girl.

Yes. Get to fuck.

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/04/2025 18:26

Day ... Of Being A Girl.

Appalonia · 20/04/2025 18:22

I don't think I can bear to revisit them right now tbh. It still feels too raw, all the gaslighting and lack of regard for women and girls. At times, reading about it all over the years made me utterly depressed, hopeless and angry. The reaction to the utterly sane and sensible judgement by the SC from much of the media and the TRAs indicates that there's going to be a massive pushback ( a bit like when a woman is leaving an abusive relationship is the most dangerous time ), so although I was elated and crying with joy and relief on Weds, I feel a bit more despondent now.

But, that's just me. I want a bloody reckoning from all those pp and institutions that didn't listen to our genuine concerns and spouted utter nonsense for YEARS. I want an apology and I want change. We came SO CLOSE to losing our rights as women, I find it chilling and it's not over yet.

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, enjoy the ridiculousness of it all, I'm just not quite there yet...x

HesSoBadHesGood · 20/04/2025 18:22

SuperSleepyBaby · 20/04/2025 17:16

The male teacher in Canada with the absolutely enormous fake breasts!

Z cup fake boobies with equally large erect nipples in tight jumpers for full effect.

The school considered him untouchable.

I wouldn't get near enough to touch either, tbf!

Memories of the last few years of madness
Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/04/2025 18:21

A man who fantasised about simulating pregnancy, then joined a pregnancy group, with the plan to fake a stillbirth at the end. A woman who had actually had a stillbirth objected that his LARP was awful and offensive and was kicked out of the female support group herself because women wanted to coddle the terrible man instead.

OvaHere · 20/04/2025 18:21

Shout out to South Park who never betrayed their roots of taking the piss out of everything. No exceptions.

Memories of the last few years of madness
DeffoNeedANameChange · 20/04/2025 18:21

The fact that The Family Sex Show almost happened (a live theatre show exploring gender and sexuality, which would apparently have been equally appropriate for adults and 5yo children, and which would have included full nudity on stage), and when it didn't happen, the Guardian ran a piece about how frightening cancel culture is.

clarabenton · 20/04/2025 18:18

Also, back in 2016, me and a friend buying a ticket to an early Venice Allen event in Glasgow. Being emailed by Venice a few hours before the event began to say that the TRAs had got the event cancelled and to meet her in Royal Exchange Square where she would lead us to the new venue. Walking through Glasgow to the new venue of the Central Hotel with her being trailed by TRAs. The event starting and an aggressive, loud TRA standing up to shout down the speaker - years later we found out this was the fragrant Beth, beloved of the Scottish Lib Dems.

Another TRA who attended posting later on social media that we were a bunch of ‘rape obsessed TERFs’

Attending another event in Edinburgh where we had to run the gauntlet of TRAs banging pots and pans so loudly, which they continued to bang throughout the event so they almost drowned out the words of a rape victim.

FlowerUser · 20/04/2025 18:17

TheSecondMrsCampbellBlack · 20/04/2025 17:13

Bristol university students union refusing to let feminists meet without men
Kathleen Stock being hounded out of Sussex uni
Jo Phoenix being hounded out of the open university
Posie Parker being threatened when she held let women speak rallies
An older woman punched in the face at Speaker’s Corner by TRAs

An older woman punched in the face at Speaker’s Corner by TRAs

I know her really well. It was really horrendous. They only caught one of them. And she was forced to wrong sex him in court and lost compensation as a result.

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