How are you tackling this in real life?

I’ve not discussed it in real life with too many people, but I have come out this week and strongly responded to a friend who shared something similar.
Interestingly, she admitted she didn’t really know much about the ins and outs of it but hated the thought of trans people being bullied. Talked a lot about “grey areas” etc. She listened to what I had to say and said she will do some reading, which I thought was a positive outcome.

Surely you can respond to the post if you want to engage on this topic? I don’t see why you can’t be friends and disagree.

I've made a couple of comments to people but not many because at the moment things are weird with me being on holidays.

Sadly, a lot of gay men truly, truly hate women. It's sad, but true. In fact, they find women physically, and emotionally - repulsive. So they cannot empathise with us. Sadly, they don't see us as humans. That is the real truth of it. I used to follow the blog of a gay male in America and he documented his life living with HIV, and with his husband and their dogs. He had tenants, a hetro couple, staying upstairs in his house. He mentioned that the man used to 'knock the woman around' (a quiet woman as he said) a bit. He basically said that women can push men's buttons and 'ask' to be hit. I commented on the blog about how horrible a thing that was to, say, but he didn't care.

I stopped following him after that. Not sure whatever happened to the blog. But I was horrified at the absolute hate and disdain he had for women. I've since seen this attitude to women being battered with other gay males.

Sorry, but I could not be friends with him. Even the most unsocialised male knows how vulnerable women are. Your 'friend' simply doesn't care. Sorry, but he doesn't see you as a human being even. That's the truth.

He doesn't recognise your humanity, your vulnerability, or your rights. Why do you even speak to him, let alone consider him a friend. Take this moment to cut him off permanently. Why keep a male friend like that in your life when he doesn't respect your humanity or needs as a female and human being.

Kevin doesn't like women. Kevin sounds like hard work.

I'd say that he's not much of a friend. Are you trying to keep the friendship alive out of sentimentality? Your partner fell out with him long ago, he's not interested in your views, he doesn't listen to you, he just tells you what to think.

I'd leave it to wither away.

Good for you Kevin sounds insufferable.

Amazed you've limped on this long with him.

Please keep the post up. You may lose him as a friend but what is his friendship bringing you? It doesn’t actually sound as if he likes or respects women - bit of a litmus test. You’ve had to budge up, as women do, to keep him on side but the ruling shows what women achieve when they say no and refuse to budge up.

For me, as @FeministUnderTheCatriarchy said, the ruling is a call to action - I’ve gardened for FWS in the past and I’ve just changed that to a monthly donation - there is so much ‘saying no’ yet to be done. I’ve fought my battles at work, and in the home, and now I wish I’d fought more.

And taking a longer view, teenagers won’t support the ideology for long - it’s already fading in relevance for them - there may be prosecutions for medical negligence, and we will see this mad phase in society in isolation. It will be like Tulipmania or witch hunting. Your friend will be left marooned as he ages supporting a desperately unpopular cause. So he may come round to your way of thinking.

It sounds like you've been trying to remain friends with Kevin despite your incompatible beliefs for far too long.

It is usually possible to be friends with someone who has different beliefs, for example, for someone who votes Conservative to be friends with someone who votes Labour, or someone who is religious to be friends with an atheist.

But I see this more along the lines of a Jewish person trying to be friends with someone who is antisemitic. Your beliefs are not compatible if their beliefs are that your fundamental rights shouldn't be respected.

It's time we all spoke up.

Everything has got so out of hand because people have been afraid to question or criticise a bullying movement.

Everyone has a different situation, so we each do what we can.

But we have people protesting who are openly calling for women to be hanged and killed over this law change. (The president of the UCU claims she's proud of these people.)

That's how far down the road we've gone. This is a violently misogynist movement based on the silencing, ignoring, and dismissing of women.

So we need a bit of bravery to counter the extremism.

If you can, hold.the line.

It’s imperative that everyone speaks up. This has gone on too long

Your comment is accurate.

If we don't speak up, who will?

If every woman said "oh someone else will fight for change and advocate for me", then we wouldnt have a single right or the protection that we do.

Yes it is awkward. Yes it is uncomfortable. But we have a duty and a responsibility to provide well reasoned, respectful but strong responses to this.

JK Rowling could have spent the rest of her life on her yacht not giving a shit about women who are less privileged and Would be affected by TRAs.

Instead, she rolled up her sleeves and joined the fight at great personal cost, both financial and also emotionally/mentally and to her safety.

The SC ruling is a call to action, not a time to breathe a sigh of relief.

We don't have power to influence things on a country or world wide scale like JK Rowling, but we can damn well do our bit at home.

It’s a fair comment you’ve made.