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Tomorrow's Mail front page: Labour trying to reverse reverse ferret

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teawamutu · 19/04/2025 22:42

Fuck sake is this ever going to be over?

Please tell me this is bollocks to hold Starmer's feet to the fire, somebody?

https://x.com/MailOnlineScot/status/1913702114129330408

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Booboobagins · 20/04/2025 00:36

So we believe the mail - a paper that's as tory as they come? They're never going to say anything good about labour are they?!

But having said that, there is clearly more to iron out here - I mean so legal definition is now clear. Thank you courts. Bt what everyday matters nos need thought to facilitate anyone who is trans - using gender specific toilets/changing rooms etc. Applying for jobs specified as male or female applicants only.

Just cos a court has clarified a legal definition doesn't mean that's job done does it?!

jen337 · 20/04/2025 00:30

Boiledbeetle · 20/04/2025 00:18

Starmer must be rocking in a corner somewhere wondering if he can phone in sick next week.

At some point he has to get off that fence he's been clinging to for what seems like forever.

It's crunch time Keir. What you gonna do??

He’ll do what he always does, waffle about how he respects the legal profession and the rule of law.

fromorbit · 20/04/2025 00:27

According to the article these quotes are from a LGBT Labour group chat. Clearly though someone on the chat is a person who is not on board with these positions hence the leak to the mail.

This is a manoeuvre from the prowoman faction inside Labour to undermine the TA side before they can do anything to undermine the judgement.

WilfredsPies · 20/04/2025 00:25

Are they exempt from libel laws now? You’d think they’d be far more imaginative with their headlines if they could just accuse people of being involved in fake events without getting into trouble for it.

jen337 · 20/04/2025 00:25

BreadInCaptivity · 20/04/2025 00:10

If it is gossip I’m sure all the MP’s who were named will be on speed dial to their solicitors tomorrow demanding a full retraction and apology…..

The Mail is indeed a tabloid but it is not immune to the law of libel.

If an MP, or even several, disagrees with the verdict and expresses their opinion in private, that doesn’t mean Labour as an party are definitely going to try to pass a law on this does it? Given that they already defend the equalities act against the Tories. That’s just what this shit paper is trying to imply to get you to read it or react to it, which has worked a treat. Not that it’s difficult, MN has seriously lost its shit over this now. To quote my kids you need to touch grass.

Boiledbeetle · 20/04/2025 00:18

Starmer must be rocking in a corner somewhere wondering if he can phone in sick next week.

At some point he has to get off that fence he's been clinging to for what seems like forever.

It's crunch time Keir. What you gonna do??

BreadInCaptivity · 20/04/2025 00:10

jen337 · 19/04/2025 23:59

Ed: hey, this trans business is hot news! How can we leap on the bandwagon and froth up our readers?
Sub: How about, “Ministers in WhatsApp plot…” Ed: Perfect! Just the kind of bullshit the credulous idiots who read this rag will lap up.

I might believe it when I hear it in parliament, not from some tabloid gossip.

If it is gossip I’m sure all the MP’s who were named will be on speed dial to their solicitors tomorrow demanding a full retraction and apology…..

The Mail is indeed a tabloid but it is not immune to the law of libel.

mrshoho · 20/04/2025 00:06

How can they defy the SC judgement? That's just nuts and Starmer of all people must know this. Would they try and amend the Equality Act? That seems like a crazy road to go down too.

jen337 · 19/04/2025 23:59

Ed: hey, this trans business is hot news! How can we leap on the bandwagon and froth up our readers?
Sub: How about, “Ministers in WhatsApp plot…” Ed: Perfect! Just the kind of bullshit the credulous idiots who read this rag will lap up.

I might believe it when I hear it in parliament, not from some tabloid gossip.

Mistyglade · 19/04/2025 23:54

SidewaysOtter · 19/04/2025 23:43

So?

So I would check the voracity of your news source, that’s all.

SidewaysOtter · 19/04/2025 23:48

So we’ve got:

Angela Eagle (MP for Wallasey);
Chris Bryant (MP for Rhondda and Ogmore);
Chris Murray (Edinburgh East & Musselburgh); and
Steve Race (MP for Exeter)

Any more?

BigBadaBoom · 19/04/2025 23:47

Remember when the Tories tried to legislate that Rwanda was a safe place for deporting asylum seekers, even though wasn't?

This would be Labour's version of that.

Violetparis · 19/04/2025 23:44

WorriedMutha · 19/04/2025 23:41

The front page excerpt shown mentions Chris Bryant. Hopefully others will be named with lots of embarrassing quotes.

Angela Eagle is mentioned too. Just copied link yo tweet from Sonia Sodha which shows the full article.

SidewaysOtter · 19/04/2025 23:43

Mistyglade · 19/04/2025 23:34

It’s the Daily Mail.

So?

WorriedMutha · 19/04/2025 23:41

The front page excerpt shown mentions Chris Bryant. Hopefully others will be named with lots of embarrassing quotes.

Violetparis · 19/04/2025 23:41

WithSilverBells · 19/04/2025 23:35

Is this Scottish Labour? It's the scottish Mail

Edited to note that it does say 'Labour's front bench...'

Edited

It's the headline in the usual Daily Mail too.

Hoardasurass · 19/04/2025 23:37

Namechange7598 · 19/04/2025 23:03

Starmer needs to speak out

And say what exactly? He's already shown that he can't be trusted with this, from his twaw mantra through his 99.99% of women don't have a penis (yes I know it's still twaw) right up to well Tony Blair says (unable to say twanw himself so still twaw) and now his refusal to anything to show that he understands that legally twanw so clearly he still believes twaw he's another biology denying zealot (remember his comments about who has a cervix)

WithSilverBells · 19/04/2025 23:35

Is this Scottish Labour? It's the scottish Mail

Edited to note that it does say 'Labour's front bench...'

Mistyglade · 19/04/2025 23:34

It’s the Daily Mail.

SidewaysOtter · 19/04/2025 23:32

That thudding noise is a thousand feminists banging their head on a wall.

Still, it got leaked. Someone had the decency to let us all know who the spineless, traitorous cunts are.

EasternStandard · 19/04/2025 23:31

That’s so bad. Plus I’m concerned for Baroness Falkner. The sheer amount of threat to her job is McCarthy level.

misscockerspaniel · 19/04/2025 23:19

On the day the judgment came out, Labour for Trans Rights said: "We will continue to fight against all attempts to strip trans people of their rights, and will use all levers within the Labour Party to make trans voices Heard". (Daily Mail 16/4/25)

Violetparis · 19/04/2025 23:13

This is madness if true.

SquirrelSoShiny · 19/04/2025 23:07

It's like they WANT to copy the Democrats in handing over democracy to the loony fringe - in our case Reform rather than MAGA. What the fuck is wrong with you Labour? Is your ideological hatred of reality so deep you are willing to burn down British democracy in a kind of 'USA, hold my drink' race to the bottom?

Shame on you. Absolute shame on you. This was the moment that gave you a way back. Cross the golden bridge, don't set it on fire, you utter fools.

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