Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

To be annoyed by tra hyperbole around supreme court judgment

211 replies

mids2019 · 18/04/2025 17:39

Just a bit tired of reasoned coherent argument that biological sex gives rights being met with trans people giving the impression a considered ruling clarifying existing law is somehow akin to a personal attack or the announcement of laws in 1930s Germany. So many trans people saying they are scared or fearful of 'dark days to come'.....why? It seems without counterargument tra are trying to give the vague impression of an oppressive society gradually obliterating the 'most fragile of oppressed groups'. The judgment actually reinforced general inability to discriminate for fs.

A judge has simply defined a women for the purposes of law and taken no rights away from any person but indeed reinforced existing rights for 50% of the population which was needed.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
10
ItisntOver · 19/04/2025 21:00

Micaela64 · 19/04/2025 20:57

Hilarious that a bunch of cis women think they have the right to tell trans people how they should or shouldn't feel about the ruling. Why don't you try listening to trans people for once instead of just spewing hatred at them.

Such an astonishing lack of self awareness.

Also- cisoleth flag.

Animated GIF
Micaela64 · 19/04/2025 20:57

Hilarious that a bunch of cis women think they have the right to tell trans people how they should or shouldn't feel about the ruling. Why don't you try listening to trans people for once instead of just spewing hatred at them.

tobee · 19/04/2025 20:28

It's a cult using cult vocabulary and tactics

"You're in danger out there, keep safe with us!"

MarieDeGournay · 19/04/2025 20:15

Somebody on a thread somewhere - sorry it's hard to keep trackConfused -
used the term 'catastrophising', which describes very accurately the TRA 'literal violence' 'genocide' language, and now there's all this catastrophising about the SC ruling as if trans people were being deprived of the vote, or picked up off the street and deported to Van Diemen's land, or El Salvador.

Like User37482, I associate it with narcissism and gaslighting in personal relationships - always keeping the temperature hot and the tension high, acting as if everything is on a knife-edge all the time, keeping you off-balance and vigilant..

As an abusive technique, it's very effective, and it's working for the TRAs - their hyperbole is attracting a lot of attention and a lot of support on SM.

User37482 · 19/04/2025 20:01

They really are narcissistic as a movement. I think this threatens a privilege many TRA’s have had. The fact that people are supposed to be extra nice and accommodating towards them, even if it’s harmful to themselves (bit like being forced to hug your pervy uncle to avoid being impolite). The fact that they are fighting for the “rights” of a minority group so they got to do a bit of moral licensing and be absolutely vile to anyone who disagreed with them. It was basically a free pass to behave in an awful way, to harass and intimidate women with impunity (including by weaponising the police). They’ve lost a lot I think (if thats what you are into ofcourse). Many of them actively seek out opportunities to violate women and have done so whilst others have patted them on the back and told them they are the actual victim, they must have really enjoyed that. I think others just enjoy the victim status are are so porn addled that they have lost touch with themselves completely outside of their fetishes.

I don’t doubt there are perfectly harmless decent transexuals out there who would be horrified at that behaviour but these days I think they are every much in the minority.

Anyhoo, it’s not my problem to fix things for men, if they want to show women their willy they should expect a jail sentence for it, not a woman of the year award. You can wear what you want and call yourself what you want, you just have to stay out of womens spaces like the other men. I truly hope this is the death of “cis” as well.

Worldgonecrazy · 19/04/2025 19:41

No gloating from females, some tears of joy.

if anything, the social media response perfectly demonstrates ‘trans rights’ was always a men’s right movement. So many organisations posting their support for ‘transwomen’, often several times over.

No comments from them about women’s rights at all.

ItisntOver · 19/04/2025 19:36

WarriorN · 19/04/2025 18:50

it’s what’s known I believe amongst child psychologists (or was) as little Nero tantrums.

I’m indebted for the phrase - that and narcissistic injury are illuminating.

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 19:32

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 19/04/2025 17:26

Really not a good idea to say stuff like that

Good point. I’ve reported them for hate speech. That sort of talk is not ok

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 19:30

ElliesPantry · 19/04/2025 17:22

If you can't see it I can't help you. Wouldn't it just be great if trans people were just cleansed from the earth eh?

Where did the original quote say cleansed?
I read “can’t be arsed” which isn’t the same
what am I missing?

JeremiahBullfrog · 19/04/2025 19:26

These people wish they were in America, where laws mean what politicised judges feel best fits their own political views, and not in the UK, where laws mean what Parliament intended them to mean.

Proponents of the American system would do well to remember that it works just as well for both sides.

Silversixpenny · 19/04/2025 19:06

MarieDeGournay · 19/04/2025 17:22

NoWordForFluffy .....I really can't see places spending time and resources they don't have changing male and female toilets to gender neutral. I can, sadly, foresee longer queues for disabled facilities which are by their nature gender neutral.

'Sadly', indeed.

This is a critical time for protection of disabled facilities as spaces for disabled people, not consolation prizes for disappointed able-bodied trans people.

Just as women have to trust that men will stay out of women's toilets, disabled people have to rely on able-bodied people staying out of accessible toilets.

Disabled people fought long and hard for accessible facilities, and it's distressing to see how quickly disability rights have been pushed way down the 'hierarchy of entitlement'. It's also revealing of how little respect TRAs have for other people's rights.

Or parking spaces! 10 /15 spaces today taken up by 0eople with no blue badge.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 19/04/2025 18:54

ElliesPantry · 19/04/2025 17:22

If you can't see it I can't help you. Wouldn't it just be great if trans people were just cleansed from the earth eh?

If their mental disorder were treated better they wouldn’t need to go down the pathway of cross-sex hormones & mutilating surgery under the delusion that they are born in the wrong body.

ItisntOver · 19/04/2025 18:54

ElliesPantry · 19/04/2025 18:44

No worse than all the crap already spouted on this board. Absolutely hateful people

Are you by any chance promoting as possessing greater knowledge or insight than those who are responding to you so helpfully?
Think so still ‘til experience change your mind.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 19/04/2025 18:54

ElliesPantry · 19/04/2025 18:44

No worse than all the crap already spouted on this board. Absolutely hateful people

Your name is now linked to that comment

if you want to be known as the person who said transpeople should be ‘cleansed’ then you do you 🤷🏻

PrettyDamnCosmic · 19/04/2025 18:52

ElliesPantry · 19/04/2025 18:39

You find it hilarious @PrettyDamnCosmic ? You're a pathetic bunch of people. Swallow a few books and articles then spew it out and nauseum over and over again, I don't think you have a genuine thought of your own in your head.

I do find you comment hilarious. It’s just so OTT in response to a perfectly logical & factual post.
It’s obvious that when the AGPs LARPing as women no longer have access to female toilets & changing rooms that the whole faff of cross dressing will seem less attractive.

WarriorN · 19/04/2025 18:50

RedToothBrush · 18/04/2025 20:14

Just remember. Judges in the UK are none political. They can only rule on what the intentions and purposes of politicians who made the law meant.

The supreme court ruled that the law didn't make sense and wouldn't work if sex referred to anything but biological sex. Unanimously.

This law dates back to April 8th 2010.

I think this is rather glorious every time activists start going on about the start of culture wars or a law decided by the far right.

This was, in fact, a law created by Brown's Labour government. A liberal left of centre government. A government no one would remotely describe as 'far right'.

It just proves they don't know shit and are squarking out of complete and utter ignorance.

it’s what’s known I believe amongst child psychologists (or was) as little Nero tantrums.

Felinnefine · 19/04/2025 18:49

ElliesPantry · 19/04/2025 18:44

No worse than all the crap already spouted on this board. Absolutely hateful people

Unlike TRAs. They. Are sweet. Example below. Just a little example. There are many more demonstrating how sweet, TRA are.

A young LGBTQ rights activist who was filmed punching a 71-year-old woman in the head during the heated Posie Parker counter-protest in Auckland this year has pleaded guilty to assault.

ElliesPantry · 19/04/2025 18:44

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 19/04/2025 17:26

Really not a good idea to say stuff like that

No worse than all the crap already spouted on this board. Absolutely hateful people

Felinnefine · 19/04/2025 18:41

You're a pathetic bunch of people

You, however, sound adorable.

ElliesPantry · 19/04/2025 18:41

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/04/2025 17:26

Is English your first language? Dwindle means to diminish gradually. in the longer term I think the number of trans people will dwindle means the poster believes the number of people who announce publicly that they are transgender will fall. What's wrong with that? She's not said they should be rounded up and exterminated, which is what you're implying.

It's clearly what she would like. Why pretend? You've all made your thoughts quite clear

teawamutu · 19/04/2025 18:40

ElliesPantry · 19/04/2025 18:39

You find it hilarious @PrettyDamnCosmic ? You're a pathetic bunch of people. Swallow a few books and articles then spew it out and nauseum over and over again, I don't think you have a genuine thought of your own in your head.

Better books and evidence than Scientific American intern blogs, wishful thinking and Judith Butler, surely?

ElliesPantry · 19/04/2025 18:39

ElliesPantry · 19/04/2025 17:01

Disgusting comment

You find it hilarious @PrettyDamnCosmic ? You're a pathetic bunch of people. Swallow a few books and articles then spew it out and nauseum over and over again, I don't think you have a genuine thought of your own in your head.

Namechange7598 · 19/04/2025 17:47

Oh I see there is still heavy handed censorship even on her ffs! My post was deleted just for saying I hoped to see fewer vulnerable children sucked into this terrible cult by social contagion and online grooming. My family’s suffering is ongoing, but who cares about that, eh?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/04/2025 17:46

I see we have a deletion. What a surprise.