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PersephoneSmith · 19/04/2025 21:37

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 16:23

Am I misunderstanding?
The person who abused you on Facebook has left but not before getting a disciplinary process started against you?

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Worse than that. They left the organisation 3 years ago. They have made a compliant about me to my organisation just as a random member of the public.

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 21:36

Silversixpenny · 19/04/2025 21:27

Sheroic work you are doing - please message me if I can help in any way. I feel I have found this thread when 99% of the work is done, though.

I wish!
We’ve only done Scotland and London so far.
We are going region by region
If everyone takes only one or two then many hands makes light work
All totally anonymous - I can’t see who uploads info and you won’t know anything about me either 😬

For anyone else up for helping come on over here: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5291237-nhs-policy-audit-working-party?page=31&reply=143671368

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Following on from Thread #23 of the Peggie v NHS Employment Tribunal. Anyone who wants to help with survey/audit of paperwork against the Equality Act...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5291237-nhs-policy-audit-working-party?page=31&reply=143671368

mrshoho · 19/04/2025 21:31

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 21:22

EVERY SINGLE NHS POLICY READS LIKE THIS!!

In case you missed that: Every single one.
There are no protected single sex spaces anywhere in the NHS at all. Anywhere.

If you want to help keep the receipts please come and help us on the NHS Policy Audit thread. Currently on an Easter pause but will be auditing the Midlands starting next week

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Yes amazing work you've been doing knotty. If you need LNWH trust I can help although embarrassingly I'm not great with technology.

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 21:28

AnotherVice · 19/04/2025 21:03

@Silversixpenny A couple of incidents I have attended:
First was actually a trans man with a very obvious female stature, shape, voice. Breasts. During the assessment they 'disclosed' their trans status, something along the lines of 'I was actually born female'. My face evidently gave me away and they immediately followed it with 'don't you think I pass as a man?' Fortunately my crew mate jumped in for me as I wasn't prepared to lie but also didn't want to risk my job.
Secondly, I went to a trans woman, in every way very clearly male. Total fetishist based on the lingerie and blow up dolls in the flat. Absolutely delighted in getting his 'titties' 🤮 out so I could do an ECG. I honestly felt really violated.

Edited to add that due to my Trust's stance I obviously could do nothing about the incident in the way I can report a man for being sexually inappropriate.

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That is appalling. When we get to the south coast would you be ok if I quoted you for the Press? This is just so unacceptable that organisations are allowing this to happen to employees

Silversixpenny · 19/04/2025 21:27

Sheroic work you are doing - please message me if I can help in any way. I feel I have found this thread when 99% of the work is done, though.

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 21:22

mrshoho · 19/04/2025 21:00

For fuck sake! Any sane person reading this will surely get why the Supreme Court judgement was so vital. Talk about making women second class citizens! Let's hope this policy will be ripped up very soon.

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EVERY SINGLE NHS POLICY READS LIKE THIS!!

In case you missed that: Every single one.
There are no protected single sex spaces anywhere in the NHS at all. Anywhere.

If you want to help keep the receipts please come and help us on the NHS Policy Audit thread. Currently on an Easter pause but will be auditing the Midlands starting next week

TheHereticalOne · 19/04/2025 21:16

ElleWoods15 · 19/04/2025 20:00

Sorry I think you’ve missed my point. I’m very familiar with the rules.
However the decision made regarding intervenors in this case was arbitrary.

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Please show your working.

AnotherVice · 19/04/2025 21:03

@Silversixpenny A couple of incidents I have attended:
First was actually a trans man with a very obvious female stature, shape, voice. Breasts. During the assessment they 'disclosed' their trans status, something along the lines of 'I was actually born female'. My face evidently gave me away and they immediately followed it with 'don't you think I pass as a man?' Fortunately my crew mate jumped in for me as I wasn't prepared to lie but also didn't want to risk my job.
Secondly, I went to a trans woman, in every way very clearly male. Total fetishist based on the lingerie and blow up dolls in the flat. Absolutely delighted in getting his 'titties' 🤮 out so I could do an ECG. I honestly felt really violated.

Edited to add that due to my Trust's stance I obviously could do nothing about the incident in the way I can report a man for being sexually inappropriate.

NotDarkGothicMama · 19/04/2025 21:02

With any luck, Eddie Redmayne will find a "moral imperative" to apologise to JKR somewhere up his arse.

mrshoho · 19/04/2025 21:00

AnotherVice · 19/04/2025 20:49

Also from their Trans policy....

For fuck sake! Any sane person reading this will surely get why the Supreme Court judgement was so vital. Talk about making women second class citizens! Let's hope this policy will be ripped up very soon.

Silversixpenny · 19/04/2025 20:54

AnotherVice · 19/04/2025 20:48

@Silversixpenny
South East Coast Ambulance Service

I'd better not need an ambulance in the South East, then!

AnotherVice · 19/04/2025 20:49

Also from their Trans policy....

A THREAD TO RECORD ALL THE APOLOGIES TO GC WOMEN SINCE THE SUPREME COURT RULING

AnotherVice · 19/04/2025 20:48

@Silversixpenny
South East Coast Ambulance Service

Brefugee · 19/04/2025 20:42

sorry, haven't managed to RTFT yet, but Janice Turner has gathered a few in a Times article

posting the archive version for ease of reading

http://archive.today/M5g5Z

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 20:04

ElleWoods15 · 19/04/2025 20:00

Sorry I think you’ve missed my point. I’m very familiar with the rules.
However the decision made regarding intervenors in this case was arbitrary.

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Oh leave us alone with your sour grapes. Go and ask Stonewall why they didn’t intervene on your behalf. It’s really not up to women to organise your defence - I mean you did have an entire national government on your side. Did you underestimate the 3 women who crowdfunded to say no?

ItisntOver · 19/04/2025 20:03

ElleWoods15 · 19/04/2025 20:00

Sorry I think you’ve missed my point. I’m very familiar with the rules.
However the decision made regarding intervenors in this case was arbitrary.

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Have you engaged Peter Daly in discussion on this topic?

TheSecondMrsCampbellBlack · 19/04/2025 20:01

There’s a great post on X with a picture of David Tennant wearing the “ you’ll have to go through me” t shirt.

The comment says “we did” 😂😂😂

ElleWoods15 · 19/04/2025 20:00

TheHereticalOne · 19/04/2025 18:10

The decisions are not arbitrary.

You can read the SC practice directions here: https://supremecourt.uk/how-to-appeal/practice-directions

PD 4.45-57 should be particularly helpful.

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Sorry I think you’ve missed my point. I’m very familiar with the rules.
However the decision made regarding intervenors in this case was arbitrary.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/04/2025 20:00

Adding the heroes and villains lists.

In memoriam, a true shero: Magdalen Berns.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/04/2025 19:29

Silversixpenny · 19/04/2025 17:08

And let's have one for the heroes too (I've summarised from the thread):

JKR
Maya Forstater
Kathleen Stock
Graham Linehan
Richard Dawkins
Ricky Gervais
Dave Chappelle

I've missed dozens, I know...please add!

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Ricky Gervais’ subtweet celebrating the ruling the other day was awesome.

TheHereticalOne · 19/04/2025 18:10

ElleWoods15 · 19/04/2025 13:19

Nope. The Supreme Court arbitrarily blocked the requested intervention by Victoria McLoud. And yet strangely allowed Sex Matters to intervene for no discernible reason.

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The decisions are not arbitrary.

You can read the SC practice directions here: https://supremecourt.uk/how-to-appeal/practice-directions

PD 4.45-57 should be particularly helpful.

Practice Directions - UK Supreme Court

Practice Directions

https://supremecourt.uk/how-to-appeal/practice-directions

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 18:08

Waitwhat23 · 19/04/2025 17:50

You do wonder why people who are not happy with this judgement aren't demanding apologies from Stonewall, Engender, Scottish Trans Alliance and the many other organisations who have been the main drivers in enforcing self id in Scotland.

Where were they? Why didn't they ask to be interveners? Surely rather remiss of them.

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Separate to the Intervenor bit, what are the Charity Commission rules on an organisation which have knowingly given advice that was unlawful and encouraged many other organisations into unlawful activities?

Silversixpenny · 19/04/2025 18:04

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 19/04/2025 18:03

Oh I would absolutely love to see an apology from David Tennant (then maybe I wouldn't feel grubby getting Disney just to watch 'Rivals').

Not gonna happen though is it?

I know I just posted this, but:

"Good old JK!"

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Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 19/04/2025 18:03

Oh I would absolutely love to see an apology from David Tennant (then maybe I wouldn't feel grubby getting Disney just to watch 'Rivals').

Not gonna happen though is it?

ArabellaScott · 19/04/2025 17:58

ElleWoods15 · 19/04/2025 14:18

Errrrr nope. That’s not the rule I’m afraid.

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Can you show me an example of when the SC have accepted a single individual's intervention?