"Trans women ARE biological women"

I bet they understand sex is binary...

Well that’s true. Apart from the cats bit. My cat is an excellent typist.

I can't even choose a line to pull to quote, every sentence is gold. I've been laughing all afternoon.

It was very amusing that everyone assumed I must be a ‘man’ to have these views. I have a womb and a baby

I thought you didn't believe in the sex binary.

It was very amusing that everyone assumed I must be a ‘man’ to have these views. I have a womb and a baby 😳
I never assumed that either. Many other words spring to mind before that one.

Although on the Internet anyone can say they are something they are not, and we don't have to accept that you have a baby, or a womb, or are a certain age, or indeed human. Cats are very good at typing garbage too.

It is genuinely mind boggling that some people aren't embarrassed to be spouting such utter horse crap.

If you don't believe in binary genders, why bother to say that you have "female gender"? You could say you have "1492538376 gender" and it would be just as meaningful(less).

So you agree that someone who has a womb isn't a man then?

Such a great article!

It’s funny how hilariously and over-confidently wrong some people are. I envy them their lack of self awareness, often.

Sorry to spoil your amusement, but I assumed nothing of the sort. So not 'everyone' at all.

Well no not really - I don’t personally believe in binary genders but accept that culturally it is the norm.

And I am by everyone elses definition on this thread (though not mine) biologically female. It was very amusing that everyone assumed I must be a ‘man’ to have these views. I have a womb and a baby 😳

Ah, OK. So on The Right Side of History, female gender (not woman gender) is a concrete and definable thing which can be clearly related to an individual. But female sex does not exist and all biological traits are a complex ineffable constellation that no mortal mind can comprehend.

Gotcha.

Enjoying a hot cross bun. Not a robot.

Yes again gender. We’ve been through this argument though. I have to make my Easter tea 🐥

Oh, suddenly female has a meaning?

I think this refers to me! I am definitely human - I could post some social media links but that would be very outing.

Age 38, gender - female - married with a baby :) Live in the North.

With all respect — and I really mean it — you're starting to sound like the posters who have told us that sex doesn't exist because what we everyday ordinary people call sex, based on current understanding of chromosomes, is just scratching the surface of the science and XX and XY is much, much more complicated than we can understand.

In everyday reasonable use the word transubstantiation does mean a transmutation or change, derived from the Catholic belief. I just looked it up in Collins, which is the dictionary I use for work. Most of us aren't Catholics so we use the world in a general, secular sense.

As there is nothing, apparently, I can say that you won't interpret as an anti-Catholic slur I'll leave it there.

The problem is that unless you are a Catholic then that is what it roughly means to everyone else.

Transgenderism has too much in common with religion. You either believe, or you don't.

The only thing that is stopping trans women from being biologically women is the XX chromosome in their cells.

You mean, the only thing stopping them from being biologically women is the fact that they're biologically men? I mean, that's true, but you present it as if it's some minor trifling thing rather than the entire essence of it. The only thing stopping a cat from being a dog is the fact that it's a cat.

Trans people can wear what they want, call themselves what they want and form whatever friendships and relationships that they want. They just can't enter spaces designated for the sex they aren't. Those are the same rules that everyone else has to follow. The same rights.

It is not a word for a 'magical transformation'. You are thinking of 'hey presto'. Unless you are using it an anti-Catholic slur.

The only thing that is stopping trans women from being biologically women is the XX chromosome in their cells. That is something no amount of scientific advancements or debate will change. They will always be biologically male, but that is not a reason to disrespect or discourage the practice of being transgender. Each to their own.

DeanElderberry · Today 16:19
Okay, Anglophone anticatholicism if you prefer. If you, or Kathleen Stock, had said 'religion', that would have been a different matter. It is the tedious insistence on mocking one specifically Roman Catholic doctrine that I find unacceptable, and not worthy of her.

I think you're wildly overthinking this. Before you said what you did, I had no idea transubstantiation was a specifically Catholic doctrine because I'm as uninterested in it as I am in all denominations of Christianity and all other religions and unevidenced belief systems. I know it's a word used to explain the magical transformation of one substance into another and that's it — and is all I needed to know to understand KS's quip. You've made two assumptions, first that I'm prejudiced against Catholics (which I am only insofar as I'm prejudiced against anyone who believes in any faith-based belief system) and secondly about my nationality which comes with its own racist overtones.

I also had to go away and check Operation Barbarossa. I thought I knew what it was but wasn't certain. I'm now ready to deal with any offended Germans and Russians who didn't think that KS's comparison was funny, either.

Big difference: Catholics believe in transubstantiation but accept that most? all?other? people don't.
And far from insisting that other people join in affirming their belief with flags and pronouns and that kind of thing, the Catholic church requires people who don't believe in transubstantiation to desist from taking Communion.

Truce?