Is anyone else surprised that so-called feminists still think that TWAW?

I assume that question is aimed at me? I do know one of her friends who ids as non-binary. I knew her as a she so pronouns are tricky. For some reason it's easy to remember a new name but not to call a she they/them. But dd also misgenders her by mistake because it's completely counter intuitive. The rest of them are uni friends who I haven't met. It's interesting that a fellow student who is a trans man got to share accommodation with my daughter on a field trip - because of course females share accommodation.

Trans women’s level of offending is actually proportionally higher than the general male population, I believe?

Same sex attracted people you say? Adult human males who are attracted to other adult human males and adult human females who are attracted to other adult human females? No one on here has any issue with adult humans of either sex hooking up with who they want, gay, straight, bi. It’s all good. Biological sex defines sexuality doncha know! Sex as defined by law. .

Bless, you think the right wing will stop at Trans people

I think TWAW feminists have a lot on common with trans women, and become default allies.

You cannot put on a dress and become a woman. You cannot be a feminist whilst approving of men eroding women’s rights and safety.

They are both pretending to be something that they’re not, hence the shared experience.

I’m after gay people, and one of my first thoughts when I heard this ruling was that perhaps lesbian venues will be allowed to exist again now.

Trans women are men.

This is a simple fact, it’s neither bullying nor hate.
I agree you’re wasting your time arguing, though.
You’ve come to the battle of wits unarmed.

Oh boo fucking hoo, if acknowledging reality makes peoples life harder, so be it.

"99% of sex offenders are male"

And how many of those men do you think are cis as opposed to trans? Trans women are more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators.

The patronising won’t wash either. It’s the kind of debating tactic that teenagers use.

I don’t need to read the Mail, as I’m capable of interpreting basic stats.

99% of sex offenders are male. Women are 14 times more likely to be sexually assaulted in mixed sex changing facilities than they are in single sex ones. So you advocating for men to be In women’s spaces is you saying that you are happy for more women to be raped than would otherwise be. That men’s feelings are more important to you - and should be more important to society - than women’s safety.

Why do you think that women should be raped so men’s feelings aren’t hurt? Please explain.

Oh, it didn’t take long for the TRAs to arrive on the thread did it?

There seem to be more than the average number of visitors to the site today, making points that were debunked somewhere around 2013.

Oh, it didn’t take long for the TRAs to arrive on the thread did it?

At the moment we avoid the topic. Since I've recently realised that I've been wrong/misguided/misinformed about many things in my life I can't really blame a young woman for not understanding something I feel strongly about. She has trans/non-binary friends so I understand she feels she's sticking up for them.

They're not men, they're trans women. Why are you so hateful towards tiny minorities who are already vulnerable?

Sweetie. A court just ruled that transwomen are men. That's not hate. That's the law AND reality. Cope

What terrible encounters did you and your daughter have with trans people? Or were you just told to feel that way by the Daily Mail?

Y force teaming just proves trans demands cannot stand in their own merit. Denied.

Have I got caught in a time slip and been whisked back to 2018?

These silly attempts to shame women into fawning over anyone with a nutsack don’t wash anymore. I’m not going to do myself, my daughter or other women down just to vie for being seen as a good girl by men and dick-panderers.

Trans men are women, so they matter just as little as any other women.
It’s all about the men.

Because most people's lives haven't been affected by trans people at all. The media blow up a few isolated cases and gullible people think it's an epidemic when they've never had any problems with them in real life.

People who are tight wing leave social work because they get treated like shit by other workers, and often in social work schools, not because they don't believe in helping people.

‘They’re not men’??! What are you on?!

They’re male. By definition. Men.

Glad it’s not just me. A number of ‘feminist’ friends have posted similar trans ally posters. And most infuriatingly, a number of them included comments about about how men are the threat and they feel safe with trans women. No mention of trans men. Lots of ‘I’ve never felt my rights threatened’… lucky them, but not a young athlete among them. I find it unfathomable that these strong intelligent women I know, can miss the point so spectacularly.

Also, the media reports I’ve caught today are all about the impact of the ruling on trans women, again, no mention of trans men, and certainly nothing about what it will mean for actual women.